[Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party

Joe Campbell philosopher.joe at gmail.com
Sun Apr 19 12:42:23 PDT 2009


Stop. Saundra is wonderful and the community is much better off having  
her than not.

Part of what disturbs me about the anti-politician rhetoric is that it  
distorts the facts, or perhaps it just distorts our luck.

For we are lucky in that we have as representatives such examples as  
Shirley Ringo and Tom Trail. And I would add, Linda Paul. Folks who  
have devoted their lives to service for no other reason -- as far as I  
can tell -- other than that they want to serve us.

I suppose that if you asked them they might say that they are just  
giving back what they have received. I've never asked them.

Joe Campbell

On Apr 19, 2009, at 12:19 PM, "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>  
wrote:

> P.S. The "knowingly" reference comes from the same thread as the  
> street name imbroglio should anyone care to go back and follow it  
> (hard to imagine) The "creepy" stalker vibe Mrs. Lund is attempting  
> to project is, I suspect, simply a bit of girlish fantasy.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: g. crabtree
> To: Saundra Lund ; 'Joe Campbell' ; 'lfalen'
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party
>
> "Just because you know where I live -- and
> felt free to post it on V2020"
>
> followed by
>
> "I never said you posted my specific address on V2020"
>
> Should I assume that if you continue to post on the subject you will  
> eventually make up your mind? I'm skeptical.
>
> From the post in question dated    060331:
>
> "NSA is tax exempt no matter where they go. Downtown, Third St,
>  Washington, Jackson,  Sixth, or Highland Dr. all the same, all tax  
> exempt."
>
> At no point did I tie any of these streets to you. The particular  
> one you happen to live on was chosen because of another who happens  
> to also live on the same st. (as I'm sure you were all too well  
> aware) who was much closer to the topic being discussed at the time.
>
> Now, as you say, back to the matter at hand. As I made clear in my  
> original post on the topic, use what ever derogatory term you  
> choose. I'm sure it's loads of fun for you and your pals to make  
> your smirking, giggling comments and thinly veiled innuendos and  
> it's always much easier to belittle those you disagree with rather  
> than to effectively refute their point. And since you seem to be a  
> bit perplexed as to what that was allow me to enlighten. Borrowing  
> huge sums of money to run up the deficit, as GW did, was extremely  
> bad for our economy and our county. To make the same mistake, do it  
> in an exponentially larger way, and instead of borrowing the money  
> printing it, is a total horror show. To make matters worse, we are  
> seeing much of this imaginary money being used to pave the way for  
> new entitlement programs that will further cripple the economy. This  
> is what the people you disparage, republicans, democrats,  
> libertarians, and anyone with a smattering of concern for the future  
> of our Republic are worried about and    rightly so.
>
> Now, I will await your next sputtering, angry poodle outburst (I'm  
> particularly atwitter to hear more of the "interesting stories"  
> insinuation) but I'm afraid I am going to have to move on to matters  
> of greater interest than responding to your self induced outrage.
>
> Ta,
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Saundra Lund
> To: 'g. crabtree' ; 'Joe Campbell' ; 'lfalen'
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 9:47 AM
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party
>
> Unfortunately, reading comprehension isn’t your strong point.
>
>
>
> I never said you posted my specific address on V2020.  You posted  
> the street I lived on & tied it to me, which is a far different  
> thing than merely “making mention” of random street names in the  
> CBD (I haven’t a clue what you’re talking about re: Residence or  
> Cherry Streets since I don’t see those in the archive – more  
> dishonesty???), a distinction anyone with a functioning brain recogn 
> izes.
>
>
>
> As for me posting it for you . . . what are you -- daft?!  While  
> where I live certainly isn’t top secret, you posting it in a public  
> forum crossed the line, which is also something anyone with a functi 
> oning brain realizes.
>
>
>
> And, if you don’t understand why it’s both creepy and pathetic  
> (to use your word) for      you to not only know where I live but fe 
> el free to post it on V2020, particularly when we – as you yourself  
> posted – have never met nor have I ever knowingly been within 100 ya 
> rds of you, either you’re far more stupid than I’d ever have  
> thought or you’re being disingenuous.  My vote is for the later.
>
>
>
> But, let’s get back to the topic at hand:  you find objectionable th 
> e whole teabagging thing.  I get it, and I’m sorry those you chose t 
> o let take over a truly populist movement were too ignorant to reali 
> ze it was inevitable once the issue was hijacked.  And, I’m also sor 
> ry your vocabulary is lacking, and that you’ve been so far under a r 
> ock that you think I or Nancy Pelosi or those on MSNBC or whatever o 
> ther scary liberals were clever enough to come up with   
> “teabagging” an “Astroturfing” and to know in advance they  
> would come in handy in 2009 to apply to a hijacked movement.
>
>
>
> I personally don’t have any problem refraining from using  
> “teabagging” for those involved in the original (pre-hijacked)  
> movement who object when they’ve not deliberately and repeatedly dir 
> ected offensive terms at those with whom they disagree.  You, howeve 
> r, are not in that category for obvious reasons, and you’re being no 
> thing more than a rank hypocrite by bringing your offense up.  As lo 
> ng as you continue to dish it out, you should certainly be willing t 
> o take it without whining.
>
>
>
> Now, you’re as entitled as the next person to be a hypocrite, but do 
> n’t expect to not be called on it.
>
>
>
>
>
> Saundra Lund
>
> Moscow, ID
>
>
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people  
> to do nothing.
>
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
>
>
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2009 through  
> life plus 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or  
> reproduce outside the Vision 2020 forum without the express written  
> permission of the author.*****
>
>
>
> From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at roadrunner.com]
> Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 7:33 AM
> To: Saundra Lund; 'Joe Campbell'; 'lfalen'
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Tea Party
>
>
>
> Unfortunately you have slipped from amusing to pathetic.
>
>
>
> Why don't you post the V2020 item in which I posted your address to  
> this list? I fairly sure you won't since it didn't happen. I DID on  
> one occasion, in a joking post, mention the street on which you  
> apparently live. If that qualifies for "creepy, creepy, creepy" all  
> I can say is your heebie jeebie factor is set as low as your  
> tolerance for an opposing view point.
>
>
>
> In other posts I have made to this forum I have made mention of Main  
> st, Third st, Sixth st, the Troy Rd, A st, Washington, Jackson,  
> Cherry, and Residence. My apologies      to any and all vision  
> members who may live on any of these roadways. It was not my  
> intention to cause you to delude yourself into believing you were  
> being stalked.
>
>
>
> g
>
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