[Vision2020] Say What?

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 13 17:11:29 PDT 2009


Bear,
 
If other countries want to buy and sell to these countries, they can do so. But I don't think the US should. 
 
The US doesn't get its oil from the Middle East, not much of it anyway. The Middle East simply has more flexibility in how much it produces and sells, which controls the price of oil on the open market. The US actually gets most of its oil from North America, Mexico, and South America. 
 
If the US opened up its oil production, the Middle East would go broke. 
 
Wal Mart improves the working conditions, pay, benefits, and lifestyle of Chinese workers. So I don't see why people would stop shopping there for that reason. I could see them stop shopping there if they employed illegal immigrants instead of US Citizens and foreign legal workers that pay fees to the federal government to live here, or because they ship jobs overseas. 
 
But people don't usually get involved in anything unless it personally involves them. 
 
If it was their daughter being burned alive, raped, or sold, they would care deeply and take action, but if it is someone elses, they just make excuses why we should continue to empower and support the people that do it. 
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan
--- On Mon, 4/13/09, bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com> wrote:


From: bear at moscow.com <bear at moscow.com>
Subject: [Vision2020] Say What?
To: vision2020 at moscow.com, donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, sunilramalingam at hotmail.com, idahotom at hotmail.com
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 4:32 PM


Donovan,

That would work ONLY if no one traded with them. Not realistic as there are other nations
that 
will step in and fill the voids opened by the western nations not trading with them. Is
there any doubt in your mind that ever drop of oil we don't import will be bought by
China?  
Thanks to the last eight disastrous  years of republican domination, most of our national
debt 
is owned by China, not a real guiding light when it comes to civil rights! And what about
the 
way Russians treat their own citizens, not to mention their neighbors!

I don't see a lot of "Christians" not shopping at Walmart do to the company being  China's

biggest outlet in the US, do you?






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Sunil, 
I mean stop allying and funding governments like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia,
Kuwait, 
Iran, Iraq, and others that have laws that treat people as slaves and objects to be abused
and 
killed at the will of men. 
I think if Western Society stopped working with them, cut of all trade and funding,
exports and 
imports, these governments would either change their polices, the people would rise up to 
change the policies, the people would migrate, or the society as a whole would end. 
Anyone that funds, trades with, and negotiates with these governments, legitimizes these 
governments and empowers them to continue their torture and mistreat of woman, children
and 
many others.
It is not OK, in my opinion, to give support, money or trade with a government that has
laws 
that say it is OK to go ahead and rape your wife, sell your children, and shoot gays. 
Best Regards,
Donovan



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