[Vision2020] Say What? (Alaskan edition)

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 13 16:15:07 PDT 2009


Sunil,
 
I mean stop allying and funding governments like Afghanistan, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Iran, Iraq, and others that have laws that treat people as slaves and objects to be abused and killed at the will of men. 
 
I think if Western Society stopped working with them, cut of all trade and funding, exports and imports, these governments would either change their polices, the people would rise up to change the policies, the people would migrate, or the society as a whole would end. 
 
Anyone that funds, trades with, and negotiates with these governments, legitimizes these governments and empowers them to continue their torture and mistreat of woman, children and many others.
 
It is not OK, in my opinion, to give support, money or trade with a government that has laws that say it is OK to go ahead and rape your wife, sell your children, and shoot gays. 
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan 
 


--- On Mon, 4/13/09, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:


From: Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What? (Alaskan edition)
To: "vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 3:14 PM




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What do you mean by 'support of Middle Eastern governments?'

Are you saying all such governments have identical policies?

And what are you advocating instead of such 'support?' You have called for the destruction of such governments.

How?

And with what would you replace them?  And how?

Sunil



Date: Mon, 13 Apr 2009 14:26:09 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com; lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What? (Alaskan edition)






Exactly, which makes the support of Middle Eastern governments as they exist today unethical. 
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Mon, 4/13/09, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:


From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What? (Alaskan edition)
To: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 10:37 AM


I would agree wit Keely on this one . Even if the victim is a wife or a whore, it is till rape if she is not willing.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:56:56 -0700
To: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.comvision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What? (Alaskan edition)

> 
> (As always, a theological perspective from Keely).
> 
> No, I don't really see that the perpetuation of male superiority and hierarchical practice in home, society, and church, has had any particular lasting, negative effect up to this day.  Gosh, doesn't this just sound like what a loving God would originally have created between women and men?  
> 
> That this Neanderthal is taken seriously by anyone other than his loving grandma, who he probably would want exempted from his counsel on life, love, and sex, is a damned shame and an affront to all men who don't lurch along the plains, knuckles dragging, mouth dripping with raw meat, and chests heaving with barely-constrained lust.  
> 
> Rape is rape, period.  Knowing the man, even having his ring on your finger, doesn't make it less so.
> 
> 
> 
> Keely
> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:55:52 +0000
> > Subject: [Vision2020] Say What? (Alaskan edition)
> > 
> > Courtesy of "Mudflats: Tiptoeing Through the Muck of Alaskan Politics" at
> > 
> > http://www.themudflats.net/
> > 
> > --------------------------------------
> > 
> > “If a guy can’t rape his wife…who’s he gonna rape?”
> > 
> > and 
> > 
> > “There wouldn’t be an issue with domestic violence if women would learn to 
> > keep their mouths shut.”
> > 
> > - Wayne Anthony Ross, Governor Palin's nominee to be Alaska's next 
> > Attorney General, during an on-air interview at "NewsTalk 1080, KUDO" 
> > (Juneau, Alaska) at 
> > 
> > http://www.kudo1080.com/
> > 
> > --------------------------------------------------------
> > 
> > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > 
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
>> > Join us at The First Annual Intolerista Wingding, April 17th, featuring 
> > Roy Zimmerman and Jeanne McHale.  For details go to . . .
> > 
> > http://www.MoscowCares.com/Wingding
> > 
> > Seeya
> > there.
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