[Vision2020] Reply to Bear and a Book Recommendation....

[bear at moscow.com]

Sue,

PLEASE understand, I'm not at all upset by the stereo types, the jokes ARE funny! I guess
what i 
was getting at, was that in this era of political correctness, it's all a matter of who's
Ox is being 
gored and who screams the loudest.

For the most part, while jokes based on stereo types are politically incorrect, they are
FUNNY!  
And what really frosts my butt, is it that to get around the political correctness, we use
terms 
that clearly get to the same minority groups, but have to be a bit dishonest about it.

Some examples, no longer is it politically correct to tell "Black" jokes, so instead of
saying 
"there were these two black people", we now say, there where these two people, Leroy and 
Qushanda". No longer two gay women, it's now "two ladies that wear comfortable shoes". No 
longer an Indian, it now  is a fellow named "Billy Two-Willies".

I agree 100% with the new Attorney General when he stated we are cowards when it comes to 
talking about these issues - WE ARE!  It is because of this dishonesty and political
correctness 
that we have  lot of the problems and issues today.

Being raised Polish in Pittsburgh, ethnic and racial issues were not below the surface and

because of it could and were addressed up front. I honestly never realized that blacks and

whites were "not supposed" to live in the same neighborhoods! The neighborhood where I
grew 
up was economically segregated, NOT racially or ethnically. My dad worked for the old 
Pennsylvania Railroad as did most of our neighbors, including the black railway postal
workers. 


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> Good point, of course, and one I would ordinarily make myself.  I've thought 
> about this a lot in other circumstances and perhaps it comes down to the 
> point that subordinate groups may always bash superordinate ones--of course 
> in some societies that can get you killed.  And equals may always bash 
> equals.  The problem there, of course, is that I might see myself as your 
> equal, but you might not have a reciprocal response to me.
> 
> I just finished a book which deals mightily with this issue: The Absolutely 
> True Diary of a Part-Time Indian, by Sherman Alexie.  It's the National Book 
> Award Winner and worthy of that honor.  My copy was a gift, but I'm sure 
> Bookpeople probably has it. It's better, I think, than his, The Lone Ranger 
> and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven.   But judge for yourself.
> 
> Sue H.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <bear at moscow.com>
> To: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>; "Sue Hovey" <suehovey at moscow.com>; 
> <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "donald edwards" <donaledwards at hotmail.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 09, 2009 8:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Reply to Why Men are Never Depressed
> 
> 
> > For what it's worth........
> >
> > Evidently, Male bashing is ok........Could you imagine the hue and cries 
> > if this same list
> > bashed Gay? Black? Native Americans? Asians? Transgenders? or the minority 
> > du jure?
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >> This is funny, and some of it is true, HOWEVER;
> >>
> >> > 1. Fox Sports Network and ESPN Sports are the only two tv channel 
> >> > presets
> >> > they need.  -->  I hate sports, especially if it is televised.
> >>
> >> > 2. They never have urinary tract problems--beer doesn't have to stop 
> >> > and
> >> > change color.  --> We get inflamed prostates instead.
> >>
> >> > 3. They associate belching and farting with other bodily functions such 
> >> > as
> >> > breathing, and figure they are equally appropriate anywhere.  --> 
> >> > Gross!
> >>
> >> > 4. Mundane everyday chores are "women's work" so they have lots of free
> >> > hours to post drivil on the Viz.  --> I confess culpability, although 
> >> > not because it
> > is
> > "women's work."  Tidiness is just more important to my wife than it is to 
> > me.
> >>
> >> > Your last name stays put.  ..>  True, but I don't consider this a 
> >> > bonus, and changing
> > your name isn't mandatory, unless your husband has an exceptionally 
> > fragile ego.
> >>
> >> > The garage is all yours. --> I've never had a garage, and, if I did, 
> >> > 90% of the junk
> > would be my wife's.
> >> > Wedding plans take care of themselves.  The wife and I planned our 
> >> > wedding equally.
> >> > Chocolate is just another snack.  --> Chocolate doesn't stick to your 
> >> > butt any more
> > than
> > it sticks to my gut.
> >> > You can be President.  --> Too true.
> >> > You can never be pregnant. --> Too true.
> >> > You can wear a white T-shirt to a water park. --> See the mention of my 
> >> > gut, above.
> >> > You can wear NO shirt to a water park.  --> See mention of my gut, 
> >> > above.
> >> > Car mechanics tell you the truth.  --. No, they don't.
> >> > The world is your urinal.  --> Thank goodness!
> >> > You never have to drive to another gas station restroom because this 
> >> > one is just too
> > icky. --> Neither do you.
> >> > You don't have to stop and think of which way to turn a nut on a 
> >> > olt.  --> Yes, I do.
> >>  > Same work, more pay. Too true.
> >> > Wrinkles add character.  --> Too true.
> >> > Wedding dress $5000.  -->  Wedding sress: $190 including shipping, 
> >> > ordered from China
> > off eBay.  There are no garments worth $5000, regardless of the occasion. 
> > My car didn't
> > cost as much as that.
> >> > Tux rental-$100.  -->  Too true.
> >>  > People never stare at your chest when you're talking to them.  --> Too 
> >> true.
> >>  > New shoes don't cut, blister, or mangle your feet.  -->  They do if
> >> I have deliberately selected stupid shoes.
> >> > One mood all the time.  --> I have as many moods as I have socks, and I 
> >> > have a lot of
> > socks.
> >> > Phone conversations are over in 30 seconds flat  --> I spend many, many 
> >> > more hours on
> > the phone than my wife.
> >> > You know stuff about tanks.  --> I find tanks less interesting than 
> >> > sports.
> >> > A five-day vacation requires only one suitcase.  --> Both of my 
> >> > daughters can travel
> > for
> > a month on a single backpack,. and my wife has finally learned that one 
> > suitcase in enough
> > for a holiday of virtually any duration.
> >> > You can open all your own jars.  --> Too true.
> >> > You get extra credit for the slightest act of thoughtfulness.  -->  Too 
> >> > true.
> >> > If someone forgets to invite you, he or she can still be your 
> >> > riend.  --> And they
> > can
> > still be yours, if they were truly your friend in the first place.
> >> > Your underwear is $8.95 for a three-pack.  -->  Too true.
> >> > Three pairs of shoes are more than enough.  --> As it is for anyone.
> >> > You almost never have strap problems in public. --. Too true.
> >> > You are unable to  see wrinkles in your clothes.  --.  Yes, I can.
> >> > Everything on your face stays its original color.  --> No, it doesn't.
> >> > The same hairstyle lasts for years, maybe decades.  --> Long hair is 
> >> > always in style.
> >> > You only have to shave your face and neck.  --> This is also true for 
> >> > women who don't
> > worry about fulfilling the fetishes of men.
> >> > You can play with toys all your life.  --> Too true.
> >> > One wallet and one pair of shoes -->  Also true for women, if they 
> >> > want.
> >> > one color for all seasons. You can wear shorts no matter how your legs 
> >> > look.  -->  Too
> > true.
> >> > You can "do" your nails with a pocket knife. .  --> Nail parlor nails 
> >> > are generally
> > gross.
> >> > You have freedom of choice concerning growing a mustache.  --> Too 
> >> > true.
> >> > You can do Christmas shopping for 25 relatives on December 24 in 25 
> >> > minutes.  --.  Too
> > true.
> >>
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