[Vision2020] National Service?

[lfalen]

Bear
whether there was a draft or not would not have made any difference on what happened at Abu Grab. If anything these sort of things would increase with a draft in my opinion.
Roger
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From: bear at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:06:30 -0700
To: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com,  bear at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com,  lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] National Service?

> Donovan,
> 
> You missed my point, either intentionally or unintentionally.
> 
> First, national service is not a means of "indoctrination", and if it is, indoctrination
> to what?
> 
> Second, national service would be an obligation to the community/nation for all citizens,
> not 
> just the few volunteers like it is now. 
> 
> It's easy for folks to fly a POW flag, or hang a yellow ribbon and feel good about
> themselves, 
> but what have they done to really advance either the community or to help those volunteers
> 
> when they do return to the community - NOTHING!  
> 
> Don't worry though, there are always folks who will step up and be counted when help is 
> needed. There are always a few that will go into harms way and defend those that aren't
> fit to 
> even call themselves citizens. 
> 
> The first question I ask NOW when ever to comes to a local election, local appointments,
> and 
> even  positions like the UI president is: HAVE THEY SERVED? Did they put themselves out at
> any 
> point, in any type of service to the community or did they sit on their collective butts
> and 
> further themselves while others carried the spear, and now want to reap the rewards?  But
> don't 
> worry, most of them have hung out a yellow ribbon - an appropriate color for most of them!
> 
> It is because of this very national condition that events like Abu Grab occur. Do you
> think a 
> group of soldiers that were drafted would have  just stood by while the prisoners were
> abused?
> Do you think that a group of drafted soldiers would have stood around while "contractors" 
> tortured
> captives?
> 
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