[Vision2020] National Service?

Tue Apr 7 11:49:55 PDT 2009

I agree with Roger, here, it should be voluntary. Forcing people into a national service would create the perfect means of indoctrination. Also, many people forced to do service may look at it as more of a punishment than an opportunity to improve yourself and your country. 

There is already a waiting list for those wanting to do national service. I would expand those opportunities first. 

Best Regards,

Donovan

--- On Tue, 4/7/09, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:

From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] National Service?
To: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, bear at moscow.com, "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tuesday, April 7, 2009, 10:23 AM

I would agree with you on this Tom. There is nothing wrong with National Service, but it should be voluntary. If it is mandatory ther is some danger( however small) of it becoming an indoctrination center.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2009 08:19:03 -0700
To: bear at moscow.com,  Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com,  vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] National Service?

> To a degree I agree with you, Bear.
> 
> Along with benefits comes responsibility, obligation, and accountability.
> 
> Too often people are willing to accept the benefits without any concern 
> for their neighbors.
> 
> As much as I would like to see everybody walk that extra mile, I simply do 
> not feel it should be required.
> 
> True loyalty and commitment is reflected in the manner in which a person 
> responds to the simple question "Why are you here?"  To those who 
> respond, "Because I was told to" I have no faith.  To those who 
> respond, "Because I want to" I owe my gratitude.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> > Tom,
> > 
> > I've read the Bill, and it's not a bad idea, but it doesn't go far 
> enough. Everyone in
> > America 
> > today runs around talking about "rights", but with every right, there 
> is, or should be a 
> > "responsibility". Where is the responsibility to the nation for most of 
> America today?
> > 
> > I'm in favor of national service, and especially in hard economic times, 
> it makes sense.
> > What is 
> > wrong with requiring some kind of national service? It doesn't have to 
> be in the military,
> 
> > but 
> > there are many many ways it could be accomplished, and there would have 
> to be some type of
> 
> > 
> > non-discrimination clause in it, and what I mean by that is "everyone" 
> goes. No exemptions
> 
> > of 
> > any kind to include gender, religion,race or orientation. 
> > 
> > There could be a national construction organization, national health, 
> national
> > administration, 
> > national education and of course the military. In other words, no more 
> free rides. The 
> > universities and civil service at all levels would no longer be staffed 
> by people that
> > have a 
> > secure niche that they settled into while others were out serving their 
> nation in one way
> > or 
> > another. Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that they wouldn't be 
> involved in foreign
> > service in 
> > support of national policies. We are spending hundreds of thousands of 
> dollar right now
> > for 
> > everything from electricians to police officers, to cooks,  for 
> contractors overseas.
> > These 
> > positions could be filled by national service personnel.
> > 
> > I was really amazed when I actually looked at the backgrounds of people 
> getting the "good 
> 
> > jobs" in government, and what their "service" backgrounds are. Take a 
> look at the Board of
> 
> > 
> > Education/Regents, how many served? And if you think that number is low, 
> take a look at
> > both 
> > the faculty and higher administrators at the University!  From what I've 
> seen, non of the 
> 
> > candidates for the presidents job at the University are veterans or have 
> they done any
> > type of 
> > national service, but it's not a suprise because the people selecting 
> them for those
> > position 
> > haven't served either! 
> > 
> > 
> > Comments?
> > 
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> ____________
> > > "I believe that there is a very strong chance that we will see that 
> young 
> > > people will be put into mandatory service. And the real concern is 
> that 
> > > there are provisions for what I would call re-education camps for 
> young 
> > > people..."
> > > 
> > > - Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Minn), on the Edward M. Kennedy Serve 
> America 
> > > Act
> > > 
> > > -------------
> > > 
> > > The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act
> > > http://edlabor.house.gov/blog/2009/03/the-edward-m-kennedy-serve-
> ame.shtml
> > > 
> > > Nope.  No re-education camps or forced labor.
> > > 
> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > > 
> > > Tom Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >  
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> > > 
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> > > there.
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