[Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq

[Joe Campbell]

You are deliberately distorting my point.

What about the conservative Chridtians in the US that kill gays and  
claim they are justified in doing so because of their interpretation  
of the Bible, an interpretation shared by some "locals."

Joe Campbell

On Apr 6, 2009, at 8:48 AM, Donovan Arnold  
<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Joe,
>
> I am trying to say that your comparison of conservative Christians  
> in the United States to those that shoot and kill men who are  
> suspected of being gay in the Middle Eastern Culture is  
> intellectually dishonest.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 4:32 PM
>
> Are you trying to say that the over the top persecution of gays by  
> fundamentalists - Christian and otherwise - is not connected with  
> violence toward and the legal oppression of gays?
>
> Joe Campbell
>
> On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com 
> > wrote:
>
>> Christians that dislike gays don't shoot them in a plotted murder  
>> and burn down gay bars and coffee shops, and they certainly don't  
>> do it openly and publicly to their family members and walk away.  
>> Nor do they thrown gasoline on woman and light them on fire for  
>> breaking a commandment. These societies are primates with guns.  
>> Christians don't support murder, and legalized rape.
>>
>> The comparison is FUBAR.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> From: Joe Campbell <philosopher.joe at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>> To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>> Cc: "vision2020 at moscow.com" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:06 PM
>>
>> Donovan,
>>
>> I don't think that hatred of gays is particular to any one  
>> religion. Why on this very town there are Christians who hate gays.  
>> That doesn't mean we should draw any conclusions about Christians  
>> in general or our "Christian nation."
>>
>> Like you I condemn radical views from any religious point of view.  
>> Religion cannot justify wrong action.
>>
>> Joe Campbell
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:56 AM, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com 
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> I want to know, from some of these liberals that want to protect  
>>> the lifestyle of the Middle Eastern Nations, how you think these  
>>> societies should be allowed to exist where people kill members of  
>>> their own family, simply because of their sexual orientation. And  
>>> not just kill them, but premeditated massacres.
>>>
>>> Afghanistan is voting on a bill that legalizes men to be able to  
>>> rape their wives, and these are supposedly the "good people" in  
>>> these societies. Pakistan's ruling Taliban set their women on fire  
>>> for disobeying Muslim law, or their Husband. The Middle East  
>>> forces woman to marry men they do not know, love, or even like.
>>>
>>> Doesn't it make since to wipe these societies out? Eliminate them  
>>> while they are still small in size and limited in power? How many  
>>> millennium must pass before woman, gays, lesbians, and those that  
>>> are a little different stop being set on fire and shot before the  
>>> world says, "ENOUGH! evolve already, of or we will destroy your  
>>> Neanderthal cave man thinking society."?
>>>
>>>
>>> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Six gay men were shot dead by members of  
>>> their tribe in two separate incidents in the past 10 days, an  
>>> official with Iraq's Interior ministry said.
>>>
>>> http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/05/gay.deaths.iraq/index.html
>>>
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