[Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon Apr 6 09:00:10 PDT 2009


Paul,
 
That is only because you know it is true! Gays and woman can be shot, beheaded, and burned alive, and you defend those governments and societies and think we should send them money and support. 
 
What is the difference between what Nazis did to Jews, and what these men are doing to woman and gays? 
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Sun, 4/5/09, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 7:44 PM


The only reasonable response to that, Donovan, is "f*ck you".

Paul

Donovan Arnold wrote:
> Paul,
>  I don't see the French, Italians, Japanese, and Indians setting fire to their woman and shooting gays legally do you?
>  No doubt, if you had a voice in 1942 you would be defending German treatment of Jews.
>  Best Regards,
>  Donovan
> 
> --- On *Sun, 4/5/09, Paul Rumelhart /<godshatter at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>     From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>     Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>     To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Donovan Arnold"
>     <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>     Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 2:11 PM
> 
>     Is this limited to Iraq, or should we declare war on everything
>     that is non-American?
> 
>     Paul
> 
>     --- On *Sun, 4/5/09, Donovan Arnold
>     /<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>         From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>         Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>         To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>         Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:39 PM
> 
>         Paul,
>                  As a straight male, I am sure it is easy for you to dismiss
>         out of hand, the horrendous crimes against minorities and
>         woman in these societies and ignorantly try to compare them to
>         US standards, by suggesting I single handedly handle the
>         situation if I don't like it.
>                  But, you don't know what it is like to live everyday of your
>         life in total fear that someone is going to kill you, even or
>         especially, a family member or husband, If you did, you would
>         not be dismissing this so readily.
>                  People that defend this, and protect this, enable these people
>         to do this, and are just as guilty as those that do it.
>                  Best Regards,
>                  Donovan
> 
>         --- On *Sun, 4/5/09, Paul Rumelhart /<godshatter at yahoo.com>/*
>         wrote:
> 
> 
>             From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>             Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>             To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Donovan Arnold"
>             <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>             Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:08 PM
> 
>             George Bush grabbed a tiger by the tail, for no apparent
>             reason, and now he's handed it off to us.  This isn't
>             about "protecting their lifestyle".  It's about getting
>             the hell out of there and leaving them to their own
>             devices in as stable a way as possible. 
>             If it makes sense to you "wipe these societies out", then
>             I'd suggest getting yourself a weapon and heading for
>             Iraq.  Besides, it's not like no one has ever died in this
>             country for the crime of being gay.
> 
>             Paul
> 
>             --- On *Sun, 4/5/09, Donovan Arnold
>             /<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
> 
> 
>                 From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>                 Subject: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
>                 To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>                 Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 11:56 AM
> 
>                 I want to know, from some of these liberals that want
>                 to protect the lifestyle of the Middle Eastern
>                 Nations, how you think these societies should be
>                 allowed to exist where people kill members of their
>                 own family, simply because of their sexual
>                 orientation. And not just kill them, but premeditated
>                 massacres.
>                                  Afghanistan is voting on a bill that legalizes men to
>                 be able to rape their wives, and these are supposedly
>                 the "good people" in these societies.
>                 Pakistan's ruling Taliban set their women on fire for
>                 disobeying Muslim law, or their Husband. The Middle
>                 East forces woman to marry men they do not know, love,
>                 or even like.
>                                  Doesn't it make since to wipe these societies out?
>                 Eliminate them while they are still small in size and
>                 limited in power? How many millennium must pass before
>                 woman, gays, lesbians, and those that are a
>                 little different stop being set on fire and shot
>                 before the world says, "ENOUGH! evolve already, of or
>                 we will destroy your Neanderthal cave man thinking
>                 society."?
>                                                   *BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN)* -- Six gay men were shot dead by
>                 members of their tribe in two separate incidents in
>                 the past 10 days, an official with Iraq's Interior
>                 ministry said.
>                                  http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/05/gay.deaths.iraq/index.html
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