[Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq

[Joe Campbell]

The advice seems to be: if you think they permit horrible actions,  
then you can take over their country.

Joe Campbell

On Apr 5, 2009, at 2:11 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is this limited to Iraq, or should we declare war on everything that  
> is non-American?
>
> Paul
>
> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
>
> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:39 PM
>
> Paul,
>
> As a straight male, I am sure it is easy for you to dismiss out of  
> hand, the horrendous crimes against minorities and woman in these  
> societies and ignorantly try to compare them to US standards, by  
> suggesting I single handedly handle the situation if I don't like it.
>
> But, you don't know what it is like to live everyday of your life in  
> total fear that someone is going to kill you, even or especially, a  
> family member or husband, If you did, you would not be dismissing  
> this so readily.
>
> People that defend this, and protect this, enable these people to do  
> this, and are just as guilty as those that do it.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Donovan Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com 
> >
> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 12:08 PM
>
> George Bush grabbed a tiger by the tail, for no apparent reason, and  
> now he's handed it off to us.  This isn't about "protecting their  
> lifestyle".  It's about getting the hell out of there and leaving  
> them to their own devices in as stable a way as possible.
>
> If it makes sense to you "wipe these societies out", then I'd  
> suggest getting yourself a weapon and heading for Iraq.  Besides,  
> it's not like no one has ever died in this country for the crime of  
> being gay.
>
> Paul
>
> --- On Sun, 4/5/09, Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>  
> wrote:
>
> From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: [Vision2020] Six gay men shot to death in Iraq
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Sunday, April 5, 2009, 11:56 AM
>
> I want to know, from some of these liberals that want to protect the  
> lifestyle of the Middle Eastern Nations, how you think these  
> societies should be allowed to exist where people kill members of  
> their own family, simply because of their sexual orientation. And  
> not just kill them, but premeditated massacres.
>
> Afghanistan is voting on a bill that legalizes men to be able to  
> rape their wives, and these are supposedly the "good people" in  
> these societies. Pakistan's ruling Taliban set their women on fire  
> for disobeying Muslim law, or their Husband. The Middle East forces  
> woman to marry men they do not know, love, or even like.
>
> Doesn't it make since to wipe these societies out? Eliminate them  
> while they are still small in size and limited in power? How many  
> millennium must pass before woman, gays, lesbians, and those that  
> are a little different stop being set on fire and shot before the  
> world says, "ENOUGH! evolve already, of or we will destroy your  
> Neanderthal cave man thinking society."?
>
>
> BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) -- Six gay men were shot dead by members of  
> their tribe in two separate incidents in the past 10 days, an  
> official with Iraq's Interior ministry said.
>
> http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/05/gay.deaths.iraq/index.html
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