[Vision2020] Lies, Damn Lies And Science

[Joe Campbell]

The funny thing is that if you talk with scientists there really is no  
issue here. How did this get to be a "political" issue in the first  
case? Isn't it an empirical issue?

Joe Campbell

On Apr 4, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Great.  Another excuse to cram it down our throats.  I can't wait.
>
> I don't know what the real answers are, but I do know that this topic
> has been so politicized that it sickens me.  It trips my "bullshit"
> meter, and layers on an extra level of skepticism that I would  
> normally
> not have had.
>
> Paul
>
> Ted Moffett wrote:
>> Vision2020 Post: Ted Moffett:
>>
>> This article from EOS ('/Examining the Scientific consensus on  
>> Climate
>> Change/', *Volume 90*, Number 3, 2009, available to American
>> Geophysical Union members) which is quoted by Realclimate.org lower
>> down and is available to the public at the website first below,  
>> claims
>> that only 58 percent of the public in the US thinks that human
>> activity is a significant contributing factor in changing the mean
>> global temperature, as opposed to 97% of specialists surveyed.  This
>> is a very recent effort to quantify the scientific consensus on the
>> validity of anthropogenic climate change and contrast this consensus
>> with public opinion:
>>
>> http://tigger.uic.edu/~pdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf
>> <http://tigger.uic.edu/%7Epdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf>
>> ------------------------------
>> http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2009/03/a-potentially-useful-book-lies-damn-lies-science/#more-661
>>
>>
>>
>>    29 March 2009
>>
>>
>>      A potentially useful book - Lies, Damn lies & Science
>>
>> Filed under:
>>
>>    * Communicating Climate
>>      <http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/category/communicating-climate/ 
>> >
>>
>> — rasmus @ 1:26 PM
>>
>> Lies, Damned Lies, and ScienceAccording to a recent article in Eos
>> (Doran and Zimmermann
>> <http://www.agu.org/journals/eo/eo0903/2009EO030002.pdf#anchor>,
>> '/Examining the Scientific consensus on Climate Change/', *Volume  
>> 90*,
>> Number 3, 2009; p. 22-23 - only available for AGU members *-  
>> update: a
>> public link to the article is here
>> <http://tigger.uic.edu/%7Epdoran/012009_Doran_final.pdf>*), about 58%
>> of the general public in the US thinks that human activity is a
>> significant contributing factor in changing the mean global
>> temperature, as opposed to 97% of specialists surveyed. The
>> disproportion between these numbers is a concern, and one possible
>> explanation may be that the science literacy among the general public
>> is low. Perhaps Sherry Seethaler's new book /'Lies, Damn Lies, and
>> Science'/ can be a useful contribution in raising the science  
>> literacy?
>>
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