[Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obam

Tue Sep 30 16:24:17 PDT 2008

Hey, when are you going to tell the whole forum who you are?

Still waiting,

Sunil

> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 14:50:43 -0700
> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obam
> 
> Carl,
> 
> Normally your dry wit makes me laugh but in this instance you have
> merely advanced an abusive ad hominem argument predicated on an
> assumption that everyone knows what you're talking about or that they
> agree with you.
> 
> However, since I do not know what you're talking about and therefore
> do not agree with you, can you please inform me, as well as this
> forum, what it is about the governor of the great state of Alaska that
> makes you display so much disdain for her that you kid she's an alien?
> It's not as though she thinks Alaska is the 58th state of the Union,
> contra Obama:
> 
> http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html
> 
> And it's not as though she asked a wheelchair-bound man to stand up,
> contra Biden:
> 
> http://news.spreadit.org/biden-wheelchairchuck-graham-biden-stand-up-video/
> 
> And just in case you think I'm not ready for your answer, I've already
> put on my Weather Underground helmet to make sure you and I can
> channel each other in the process.
> 
> Weather Underground helmet:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:WEATHERUNDERGROUND3.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> On 9/30/08, Carl Westberg <idahovandal1 at live.com> wrote:
> >
> >  Well, if dual citizenship is a problem, how about Sarah Heath (that's a
> > suspicious sounding middle name, sounds vaguely British) Palin?  As far as I
> > can ascertain, she's a citizen of the United States and, oh, I don't
> > know....Saturn?    Carl Westberg Jr.
> >
> > > Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 10:51:49 -0700
> >
> > > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obam
> > >
> > > Sunil,
> > >
> > > Apologies for the late reply; it's a gmail thing. Just because I am a
> > > brilliant Obamaologist doesn't mean that I can figure out gmail's
> > > inbox.
> > >
> > > The legitimate question involves divided loyalties — the Second
> > > Amendment requires the POTUS to be a natural born citizen and contra
> > > Tom, NBC does not mean born on American soil, which I'm sure you know.
> > >
> > > Dual citizenship creates a conflict of interest — or dual loyalties.
> > > The framers of the Constitution required the POTUS to be a NBC to
> > > guarantee that a subject of the British monarchy (or any other
> > > possible threat) didn't hijack the executive branch. Either that or
> > > they were prejudiced against non-Americans.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/26/08, Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What legitimate questions?
> > > >
> > > > And who are you?
> > > >
> > > > Sunil
> > > >
> > > > > Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 18:32:21 -0600
> > > > > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > > > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Bill Ayers & Barack Obama
> > > > >
> > > > > Tom,
> > > > >
> > > > > My grasp of history is just fine, thank you. I wish I could say the
> > > > > same for your grasp of the US Constitution.
> > > > >
> > > > > According to Obama's website:
> > > > >
> > > > > "When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was
> > > > > a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom's dwindling empire.
> > > > > As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose
> > > > > citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of
> > > > > 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.'s children.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since Sen. Obama has neither renounced his U.S. citizenship nor sworn
> > > > > an oath of allegiance to Kenya, his Kenyan citizenship automatically
> > > > > expired on Aug. 4,1982."
> > > > >
> > > > > http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
> > > > >
> > > > > This testimony raises legitimate questions about dual citizenship
> > > > > which would preclude Barrack Hussein Obama from running for president,
> > > > > not to mention his citizenship in Indonesia.
> > > > >
> > > > > And it's interesting that you mention the "nifty fifty." According to
> > > > > Barrack Hussein Obama there's 58 states in the Union:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/05/barack-obama-wa.html
> > > > >
> > > > > That would be the 57 states he visited plus Alaska, assuming he knew
> > > > > Alaska was a state.
> > > > >
> > > > > Keely, I have no idea what your point is, or if you made one.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > No -
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You apparently are struggling with history.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No stated:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Obama's background is so vague that one US citizen has sought a
> > > > > > declaratory judgement against him because he has not established his
> > > > > > qualification as a US citizen to run for president:"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, No. You are wrong. See . . .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/63qw47
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Barack Obama was born in Hawaii subsequent to July 4, 1959 (the date
> > > > that
> > > > > > Hawaii became our 50th state)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > McCain, on the other hand, was NOT born in any of the Nifty Fifty.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hmmm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tom Hansen
> > > > > > Moscow, Idaho
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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