[Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
g. crabtree
jampot at roadrunner.com
Sat Sep 13 08:32:06 PDT 2008
Sunil,
Masterful side step. Putting aside the issue of Barry taking his comedy lines from John McCain, I put the same question to you. Do you really think that BHO didn't know full well how his audience would take his remark? If the answer is yes, my point is made. If the answer is no, your guy isn't very sharp. Either way it doesn't say much for his judgment. Is this a major issue for the campaign? Not hardly as I have already said this matter has been overblown by the McCain camp. Is it a "made up story" as Ms. Lund tried to assert? Not by a long shot.
Have a great weekend,
g
----- Original Message -----
From: Sunil Ramalingam
To: 'Vision2020'
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
Gary,
Here's a link to McCain using the identical phrase with regard to Hilary Clinton's health care plan. Is he calling her a pig or is he using a common expression?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHZd3XXUf7Q
Obama was talking about McCain's economic program when he used the expression. He had referenced McCain specifically before using the expression.
Jeff, is this a relevant issue for the election? Or is it nonsense?
Sunil
> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:04:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
>
> Are you actually trying to imply that wonderbama didn't know full well how
> his audience would take his remark? If he didn't his genius and his
> judgement should definatly be called into question. There is no doubt but
> what there was a real and not "made up" story there but I will grant you
> that it didn't rise to the level that some would try and make it out to be.
>
> That said, how about putting a little lipstick on the Rezco, Ayers, Dohrn,
> or Wright debacle? g u
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>
> To: "'Vision2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
>
>
> Gary Crabtree wrote:
> "And as to the "made up stories" of which you speak, what might those be Miz
> Lund?"
>
> Do the words 'lipstick' and 'pig' ring a bell for you?
> http://wire.factcheck.org/2008/09/10/pigs-and-pit-bulls/
>
> Suffice it to say I think the McCain/Palin ticket's hysterically calculated
> reaction to Obama using a phrase the GOP is historically fond of is an
> excellent case in point.
>
> Word of Advice to Democrats: since the McCain/Palin ticket apparently wants
> exclusive use of all make-up & cosmetics phrases in the presidential
> campaign, I suggest we let them have them :-) God only knows why it's so
> important to them (perhaps it's that desperation rearing its ugly head
> again), but since it's such a trivial thing, let's give it to them :-)
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
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> 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at roadrunner.com]
> Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:32 AM
> To: Saundra Lund; 'Vision2020'
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
>
> Why thank you. Your adding the rest of the quote bears out my contention
> that the governor was in no way endorsing Barry or considering giving him
> her vote as the subject line implied. No one ever doubted that the man was
> articulate, bright, and clean as his VP pick so aptly stated, he's just
> wrong on the issues.
>
> And as to the "made up stories" of which you speak, what might those be Miz
> Lund? Perhaps you are referring to:
>
> 1. The Rezco/ BHO land deal
> 2. BHO and plagiarism (makes the Biden choice a bit clearer doesn't it?)
> 3. BHO and drug use/potential sales
> 4. The whack job church he attended for 20+ years
> 5. His unrepentant terrorist, bomb planting pals, William Ayers and
> Bernardine Dohrn
> 6. His incredible stand on abortion
> 7. His amazingly confused/contradictory stance on taxes and the economy
> 8. A stated foreign policy that would only be appropriate for a kindergarten
>
> class
>
> I'd love to hear your explanation for how none of these matter or how they
> are in no way truthful. I'll be waiting.
>
> Patiently,
> g
>
> "We are the ones we have been waiting for" like the bird flu....
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>
> To: "'Vision2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
>
>
> As always, it's best to go to the primary source. Here's the full quote:
>
> "Palin: That's a good question. And you did your homework, Larry. That's
> impressive. Usually yes, such a red state up here. It's a no-brainer that
> the "R" is going to take the cake up here. But this is a little bit
> different situation now with Obama's message resonating, even with Alaskans.
> That being change, a desire for no embracing of the status quo and politics
> as usual. But something different, something dynamic and charismatic. That
> does resonate well, that message of Obama's. I still do believe of course
> McCain will take Alaska because he's right on so many of the issues when it
> comes to - in my opinion - he's right on war, he's right on with energy
> independence measures that need to be taken. Wrong on ANWR, but we're still
> working on that one."
> http://kudlowsmoneypolitics.blogspot.com/2008/08/my-interview-with-alaska-go
> vernor-sarah.html
> OR
> http://tinyurl.com/64zftz
>
> Folks, do read the entire interview because quite telling are Palin's . . .
> not completely truthful or honest answers. It cracks me up that she's sooo
> interested in the ethics of everyone else when she needs look no further
> than herself for a world-class ethics reform project.
>
> LOL -- Mr. Crabtree, I'd say it's the GOP that's terrified with their
> made-up stories that even their own party members are embarrassed by.
>
>
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
>
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
>
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through life plus
> 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
> the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
> author.*****
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of g. crabtree
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:38 PM
> To: Chasuk; Vision2020
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
>
> Why do I have this funny feeling that the clip abruptly ended just before a
> major "but" followed by further statements that did nothing to further the
> silly point that this snippet is trying to make.
>
> More noise from a terrified left who has nothing positive to say about their
>
> own candidates so they figure they had best try to tear down the opponent.
> That they have to resort to childishly attacking the Republican tickets VP
> to have anything at all to say is hilarious.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
> To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:13 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
>
>
> >
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO6dmBm1SFw&eurl=http://dailykos.com/storyonl
> y/2008/9/11/12246/9661/19/594920
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