[Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama

Sat Sep 13 07:35:00 PDT 2008

When McCain did the same thing was it an example of his own poor judgment under stress?

Sunil

> Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2008 07:29:17 -0700
> To: sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
> From: jeffh at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
> 
> At best, it was a poor attempt at humor - probably an example that 
> his judgment becomes flawed by stress.  An issue, not really for me.
> 
> I am more concerned about his tax policy and his wealth 
> redistribution plans.  I am strongly opposed to that.
> 
> IMHO, McCain is the better choice for leadership.
> 
> At 07:11 AM 9/13/2008, you wrote:
> >Gary,
> >
> >Here's a link to McCain using the identical phrase with regard to 
> >Hilary Clinton's health care plan.  Is he calling her a pig or is he 
> >using a common expression?
> >
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHZd3XXUf7Q
> >
> >Obama was talking about McCain's economic program when he used the 
> >expression.  He had referenced McCain specifically before using the expression.
> >
> >Jeff, is this a relevant issue for the election?  Or is it nonsense?
> >
> >Sunil
> >
> > > From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> > > To: sslund_2007 at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> > > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 19:04:12 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
> > >
> > > Are you actually trying to imply that wonderbama didn't know full well how
> > > his audience would take his remark? If he didn't his genius and his
> > > judgement should definatly be called into question. There is no doubt but
> > > what there was a real and not "made up" story there but I will grant you
> > > that it didn't rise to the level that some would try and make it out to be.
> > >
> > > That said, how about putting a little lipstick on the Rezco, Ayers, Dohrn,
> > > or Wright debacle? g u
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>
> > > To: "'Vision2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 12:20 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
> > >
> > >
> > > Gary Crabtree wrote:
> > > "And as to the "made up stories" of which you speak, what might 
> > those be Miz
> > > Lund?"
> > >
> > > Do the words 'lipstick' and 'pig' ring a bell for you?
> > > http://wire.factcheck.org/2008/09/10/pigs-and-pit-bulls/
> > >
> > > Suffice it to say I think the McCain/Palin ticket's hysterically calculated
> > > reaction to Obama using a phrase the GOP is historically fond of is an
> > > excellent case in point.
> > >
> > > Word of Advice to Democrats: since the McCain/Palin ticket apparently wants
> > > exclusive use of all make-up & cosmetics phrases in the presidential
> > > campaign, I suggest we let them have them :-) God only knows why it's so
> > > important to them (perhaps it's that desperation rearing its ugly head
> > > again), but since it's such a trivial thing, let's give it to them :-)
> > >
> > >
> > > Saundra Lund
> > > Moscow, ID
> > >
> > > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> > > nothing.
> > > ~ Edmund Burke
> > >
> > > ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 
> > through life plus
> > > 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
> > > the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
> > > author.*****
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: g. crabtree [mailto:jampot at roadrunner.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, September 12, 2008 6:32 AM
> > > To: Saundra Lund; 'Vision2020'
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
> > >
> > > Why thank you. Your adding the rest of the quote bears out my contention
> > > that the governor was in no way endorsing Barry or considering giving him
> > > her vote as the subject line implied. No one ever doubted that the man was
> > > articulate, bright, and clean as his VP pick so aptly stated, he's just
> > > wrong on the issues.
> > >
> > > And as to the "made up stories" of which you speak, what might those be Miz
> > > Lund? Perhaps you are referring to:
> > >
> > > 1. The Rezco/ BHO land deal
> > > 2. BHO and plagiarism (makes the Biden choice a bit clearer doesn't it?)
> > > 3. BHO and drug use/potential sales
> > > 4. The whack job church he attended for 20+ years
> > > 5. His unrepentant terrorist, bomb planting pals, William Ayers and
> > > Bernardine Dohrn
> > > 6. His incredible stand on abortion
> > > 7. His amazingly confused/contradictory stance on taxes and the economy
> > > 8. A stated foreign policy that would only be appropriate for a 
> > kindergarten
> > >
> > > class
> > >
> > > I'd love to hear your explanation for how none of these matter or how they
> > > are in no way truthful. I'll be waiting.
> > >
> > > Patiently,
> > > g
> > >
> > > "We are the ones we have been waiting for" like the bird flu....
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund_2007 at verizon.net>
> > > To: "'Vision2020'" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 10:17 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
> > >
> > >
> > > As always, it's best to go to the primary source. Here's the full quote:
> > >
> > > "Palin: That's a good question. And you did your homework, Larry. That's
> > > impressive. Usually yes, such a red state up here. It's a no-brainer that
> > > the "R" is going to take the cake up here. But this is a little bit
> > > different situation now with Obama's message resonating, even 
> > with Alaskans.
> > > That being change, a desire for no embracing of the status quo and politics
> > > as usual. But something different, something dynamic and charismatic. That
> > > does resonate well, that message of Obama's. I still do believe of course
> > > McCain will take Alaska because he's right on so many of the issues when it
> > > comes to - in my opinion - he's right on war, he's right on with energy
> > > independence measures that need to be taken. Wrong on ANWR, but we're still
> > > working on that one."
> > > 
> > http://kudlowsmoneypolitics.blogspot.com/2008/08/my-interview-with-alaska-go
> > > vernor-sarah.html
> > > OR
> > > http://tinyurl.com/64zftz
> > >
> > > Folks, do read the entire interview because quite telling are Palin's . . .
> > > not completely truthful or honest answers. It cracks me up that she's sooo
> > > interested in the ethics of everyone else when she needs look no further
> > > than herself for a world-class ethics reform project.
> > >
> > > LOL -- Mr. Crabtree, I'd say it's the GOP that's terrified with their
> > > made-up stories that even their own party members are embarrassed by.
> > >
> > >
> > > Saundra Lund
> > > Moscow, ID
> > >
> > > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> > > nothing.
> > > ~ Edmund Burke
> > >
> > > ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 
> > through life plus
> > > 70 years, Saundra Lund. Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
> > > the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
> > > author.*****
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> > > On Behalf Of g. crabtree
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:38 PM
> > > To: Chasuk; Vision2020
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
> > >
> > > Why do I have this funny feeling that the clip abruptly ended just before a
> > > major "but" followed by further statements that did nothing to further the
> > > silly point that this snippet is trying to make.
> > >
> > > More noise from a terrified left who has nothing positive to say 
> > about their
> > >
> > > own candidates so they figure they had best try to tear down the opponent.
> > > That they have to resort to childishly attacking the Republican tickets VP
> > > to have anything at all to say is hilarious.
> > >
> > > g
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
> > > To: "Vision2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 6:13 PM
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] I'd Vote For Obama
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jO6dmBm1SFw&eurl=http://dailykos.com/storyonl
> > > y/2008/9/11/12246/9661/19/594920
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