[Vision2020] McCain's Choice Bad for Voters

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Mon Sep 8 14:40:52 PDT 2008


Sunil
You should talk to Tom Anderson at Viola. He was there and can verify most of what is said in the swift boat book.
He also thinks that the latest book by the swift book author is more opinion than fact.
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam at hotmail.com
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:20:13 -0700
To: vision2020 at moscow.com,  Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] McCain's Choice Bad for Voters

> 
> Gary,
> 
> Why do you keep calling him "Barry?"
> 
> And were the Swift Boaters in '04 Bush's surrogates?
> 
> Sunil
> 
> From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> To: kjajmix1 at msn.com; vision2020 at moscow.com; thansen at moscow.com
> Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 19:49:43 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] McCain's Choice Bad for Voters
> 
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> Wow, Ms. Mix is outraged over something I have posted. 
> This, having never happened before, is such a surprise you could knock 
> me over with a feather. Perhaps you would like to submit to the vision a list of 
> approved words and sentiments that will meet with your approval and I'll make 
> every effort to see to it that I, and everyone I know, complies with your 
> wishes.
>  
> Now that you have pointed out that I am a bigot, lets get 
> to the heart of the matter and determine what kind of bigot I am. I regularly 
> refer to our current chief executive as "W," I've often referred to our 32nd, 
> 35th, and 36th presidents as FDR, JFK, and LBJ. Perhaps my prejudice is confined 
> to men on the national stage and a need for shorthand. I'm not sure what the 
> relevance of your B-ho remark is or what, exactly, makes it funny. I guess I'll 
> be forced to take your word for it that there is some nasty inference to be 
> derived from it. Goodness knows, you'd be the one to know. My reference to "The 
> One" comes directly from Obama's campaign and I believe that the mockery is well 
> deserved indeed.
>  
> You piously claim that  you "think it's wrong for 
> people to make political or personal hay out of Bristol Palin's private life" 
> and yet in the two instances when "bunkie" hanson has posted 
> links doing just that it has gone unremarked. I never accused Barry of 
> exploiting the Palin daughter's pregnancy. I pointed my finger at his 
> surrogates, the media and the liberal blogs. B's exploitation was of his own 
> offspring, of his own volition. How ever it's worded (and I'm certain that there 
> is no way that could possibly meet with your approval) it's irrefutable that 
> it's what he's done. Sarah Palin has not. Or is it your contention that a woman 
> with a pregnant daughter can't run for office? I'm going to love watching you 
> try to make that one fly.
>  
> g
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: 
>   keely emerinemix 
>   
>   To: g. crabtree ; vision2020 at moscow.com ; Tom Hansen 
> 
>   Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 1:41 
>   PM
>   Subject: RE: [Vision2020] McCain's Choice 
>   Bad for Voters
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> You know, I think it's beyond the pale to suggest that Obama 
>   has "pimped" his daughters.  I think the sentiment is ugly, the choice of 
>   wording somewhat suspicious, and the "BHO" designation skirting the edges of 
>   bigotry (it relies on "Hussein," which seems important to the conservatives, 
>   and it reads "B-Ho," which is funny if you're one of them).  Further, 
>   sarcastic reference to "The One" presumes a mockery of self-importance Obama 
>   doesn't deserve.
> 
> Together -- "pimped," "B-Ho," and "The One" -- tells 
>   me that Gary is fresh out of new things to say and has taken, disappointingly, 
>   to reliance on ugly stereotypes and tired old arguments.   Sarah 
>   Palin isn't responsible for her daughter's pregnancy, but she did make the 
>   choice to seek national office in the midst of it.  I think it's wrong 
>   for people to make political or personal hay out of Bristol Palin's private 
>   life, as I've written on my blog, but to suggest that a conservative, 
>   pro-life, hard-right evangelical would somehow get a free pass in this or any 
>   other circumstance when running for the vice presidency strikes me as more 
>   naive than I know Gary to be.  Gary, who hasn't acknowledged that Obama 
>   has instructed his staff that any comments about the Palin family's children 
>   are grounds for immediate termination, would like this to be another example 
>   of mean, nasty, coldhearted-yet-spineless liberals attacking a good 
>   conservative.  It isn't.
> 
> My thought is that Sarah Palin is a 
>   bright, sunny woman given to a sharp tongue and a rapier wit that, while 
>   intoxicating now in the spotlight, will soon eviscerate her and her campaign 
>   partner.  She won't last through September, and it won't be because of 
>   Huffington, Kos, Andreas Schou, Keely Emerine Mix, or anyone other 
> than . 
>   . . Sarah 
>   Palin.
> 
> Keely
> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> 
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> > 
>   From: jampot at roadrunner.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com; 
>   thansen at moscow.com
> > Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2008 13:29:04 -0700
> > 
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] McCain's Choice Bad for Voters
> > 
> > 
>   Excuse me, if there was any "shoving her pregnant daughter into the public 
>   
> > eye" it was done by the "progressive media and bloggers such as kos 
>   and 
> > huffington. This would be in direct contrast to BHO who has taken 
>   every 
> > opportunity (remember access hollywood's extensive interview of 
>   the precious 
> > tykes along with making sure the kiddies had microphones 
>   in their precocious 
> > little paws when they were onstage at the dnc 
>   convention?) to pimp his 
> > children to the public for the greater glory 
>   of "The One's" campaign.
> > 
> > That a local democrat has managed to 
>   find a disaffected Alaskan democrat who 
> > is willing to make 
>   unsubstantiated negative comments about McCain's VP pick 
> > comes as no 
>   surprise. After all, when you're running scared there's nothing 
> > a dem 
>   won't do to try and carry the day.
> > 
> > g
> > 
> > 
>   
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Tom Hansen" 
>   <thansen at moscow.com>
> > To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> > 
>   Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2008 12:06 PM
> > Subject: [Vision2020] 
>   McCain's Choice Bad for Voters
> > 
> > 
> > > >From today's 
>   (September 6, 2008) "Letters" section of the Spokesman 
> > > 
>   >Review
> > > with thanks to Anesa Miller of Pullman.
> > 
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> > 
>   > McCain's choice bad for voters
> > >
> > > John McCain has 
>   foisted an unknown politician on American voters with
> > > barely two 
>   months for her credentials to be revealed and considered. Now
> > > his 
>   campaign wants to silence questions with bullying worthy of Bill
> > > 
>   O'Reilly.
> > >
> > > If we think her resume - PTA, small-town 
>   mayor, 18 months as governor of
> > > our least populous state - looks 
>   a bit thin, Carly Fiorina shrieks sexism.
> > > If we question her 
>   judgment as a mother - shoving her pregnant daughter
> > > into the 
>   public eye - Steve Schmidt cries "trumped-up media scandal."
> > 
>   >
> > > Meanwhile, the facts of Palin's background that continue to 
>   trickle out
> > > are anything but reassuring. For an even-handed and 
>   balanced history of
> > > Palin's public life, written by a 
>   well-informed woman unafraid to come
> > > forward and give her name 
>   (despite the real danger of retaliation), check
> > > out:
> > 
>   >
> > > http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html
> > 
>   >
> > > This is not rumor or smear, but the details are 
>   sobering.
> > >
> > > The real scandal here is McCain's attempt 
>   to pander for votes by putting
> > > such an unqualified candidate a 
>   heartbeat away from the presidency.
> > >
> > > Anesa 
>   Miller
> > > Pullman
> > >
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>   >
> > > Seeya round town, Moscow.
> > >
> > > Tom 
>   Hansen
> > > Moscow, Idaho
> > >
> > > "We're a town of 
>   about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
> > > students 
>   are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> > 
>   >
> > > - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
> > >
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