[Vision2020] 9/11 Truther's Lawsuit Kicked Out

[No Weatherman]

I'm not demanding that he show me physical proof of his NBC, the issue
is much more complex than that now.

Prior to the DNC, Obama denied that he's an NBC of Kenya. After the
DNC he admitted that he was an NBC of Kenya but that he let his
citizenship expire.

It doesn't matter if he let his Kenyan citizenship expire because his
NBC status of Kenya divides any claim he can make to NBC in the US.



On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Ok, reality check.  The website image is a photo of a copy of the birth
> certificate.  A URL to the image would likely not be accepted as proof of
> birth when filling out an I-9 when getting a job, that's true.
>
> However, it seems like pretty good proof to me that the birth certificate
> copy that the picture represents does, in fact, exist.  Which is all it's
> there for.  Believe me, if he has to show proof of his citizenship when he
> goes into office, I guarantee he's not going to point to the website photo
> as evidence of his birth in Hawaii.  He'll produce a real, physical copy of
> his birth certificate which will be evidence of his birth there.
>
> I bet he wasn't expecting to have to show a physical copy to someone under
> the alias "No Weatherman" on an obscure listserv in a small town in the
> middle of nowhere, in order to get him (or her, or them) to believe in his
> right to run for President.
>
> Paul
>
> No Weatherman wrote:
>>
>> Exactamundo.
>>
>> The copy on the Web doesn't mean a thing because it was altered for the
>> Web.
>>
>> It means everything, however, to Obama's acolytes who point to it all the
>> time.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not a lawyer, but I read that to mean that if that specific copy of
>>> his
>>> birth certificate is altered, it is no longer considered prima facie
>>> evidence of the fact of his birth.  Evidence of alteration would
>>> invalidate
>>> that copy only.  He could produce another unaltered copy at any time that
>>> would still prove his citizenship.
>>>
>>> How do you read it?
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> No Weatherman wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Hansen:
>>>>
>>>> If I could lure you away from dolly for a moment, can you please
>>>> explain to this forum what the words "ANY ALTERATIONS INVALIDATE THIS
>>>> CERTIFICATE" on the image of a COLB on Obama's Web site means?
>>>> http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Obama's Certification of Birth (from the Hawaii Department of Health)
>>>>> has
>>>>> been posted several times, Roger.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question:  Care to share McCain's Birth Certificate?  I understand that
>>>>> he
>>>>> was NOT born in the United States.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom "born in North Hollywood, California" Hansen
>>>>> Proud domestic migrant currently residing (legally somewhat) in Moscow,
>>>>> Idaho
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I do not question that Obama is a natural born citizen. It is
>>>>>> disturbing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> that he did not
>>>>> immediately post his birth certificate. By not doing so he added to the
>>>>> speculation that
>>>>> he may not be. If he can not be upfront on this what does that say
>>>>> about
>>>>> his views on
>>>>> transparency in government.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>> -----Original message-----
>>>>>> From: "Andreas Schou" ophite at gmail.com
>>>>>> Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2008 11:14:34 -0700
>>>>>> To: "Vision 2020" vision2020 at moscow.com
>>>>>> Subject: [Vision2020] 9/11 Truther's Lawsuit Kicked Out
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not a big surprise. The grounds (that Berg has no standing) were
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> somewhat
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> mundane, but the decision also addressed (in dicta) the fact that
>>>>>>> Berg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> hadimg20081030100825268
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> no plausible basis for his claims.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20081025/D941NCJG0.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- ACS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
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