[Vision2020] On List: Ms Mix — habitual liar

[No Weatherman]

Ms Mix:

I've made it a point to ignore your off list emails, however, this
time I am making an exception.

I am not particularly impressed by your dogged determination to evade
the question.

I asked you to show me where I communicated the things that you
alleged I communicated. It was a relatively simple request and not the
first time I made it.

I made this request because I knew you could not comply with it and I
hoped that you would understand the point that you really did
misrepresent me by distorting my words.

As usual, rather than admit your fault, you want to make me the issue
and the implication of your email below is more of the same. You are
essentially claiming the right to publicly misrepresent me because you
don't like the way that I made my representation.

Your argument doesn't pass my smell test and I'm fairly certain that
it doesn't sit well with a "righteous God."

Give up lying and learn to tell the truth.


On 10/28/08, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
>
>  You realize, of course, that your opinion of me is of no importance.
> However, I'd remind you that a decent man would at least sign his name to
> this sort of thing, or else be willing to meet the one he accuses face to
> face.  You name the time and place, or name yourself, or both.
>
> Anything short of that is pure malicious cowardice, for which you ought to
> be ashamed and for which I pray for your healing and forgiveness from a
> Righteous God.
>
> My conscience is clear, and my heart aches for you and yours.
>
> Keely
> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
>
>
> > Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 12:41:32 -0800
> > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the
> tank) Press
> >
> > Ms. Mix:
> >
> > I have a surprise for you.
> >
> > Truth is not subject to the democratic process.
> >
> > I did not ask anyone from the V to produce evidence that I wrote the
> > things you alleged I wrote. I asked you.
> >
> > As usual, however, you dodged the question to give another
> > self-serving answer that on the surface makes you look better than you
> > really are.
> >
> > But you did not answer the question.
> >
> > And you did not answer the question because you are a liar and I
> > caught you lying.
> >
> > You should get help.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:53 AM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> wrote:
> > > Visionaires --
> > >
> > > Anyone who believes that I have misrepresented No Weatherman in the
> > > paragraph he quotes, below, please raise your right hand. Further,
> anyone
> > > who recognizes this strand of anti-tax, anti-government, anti-poor
> thought
> > > as a regular line from a local church, take a bow.
> > >
> > > And anyone who thinks I'm a liar, Farraked-up or otherwise: Have a
> lovely
> > > day.
> > >
> > > Keely
> > > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > >> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 06:30:00 -0800
> > >> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in
> the
> > >> tank) Press
> > >>
> > >> Ummmmm.
> > >>
> > >> Let me make sure I understand this.
> > >>
> > >> You misrepresented my by saying, "Yep, we now have the social safety
> > >> net afforded by taxes being equated not only with theft and innate
> > >> anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy . . . by church folks. Christians,
> > >> even."
> > >>
> > >> And I asked you to substantiate your position by showing me where I
> > >> wrote you alleged I wrote.
> > >>
> > >> You reply asking, "Is it at all possible for you to imagine, if only
> > >> for a second, that everything in the world doesn't somehow refer back
> > >> to you?"
> > >>
> > >> I would think you have the decency to support your allegation but not
> > >> only are you indecent, you're deceitful. You couldn't answer my
> > >> question because, as usual, you were lying.
> > >>
> > >> This has happened at least five times and each time you come back with
> > >> a self-serving response that makes you look better at the expense of
> > >> the truth.
> > >>
> > >> You are seriously Farraked up.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 10/27/08, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > Is it at all possible for you to imagine, if only for a second, that
> > >> > everything in the world doesn't somehow refer back to you?
> > >> >
> > >> > Keely
> > >> > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 20:43:43 -0400
> > >> >
> > >> > > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > >> > > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not
> in
> > >> > > the
> > >> > tank) Press
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Ms. Mix:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > As usual, you're lying.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > And, as usual, you have extenuating circumstances.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Can you please show me where I argued "we now have the social
> safety
> > >> > > net afforded by taxes being equated not only with theft and innate
> > >> > > anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy"?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Or did you get another freebase rush of self-righteousness by
> > >> > > misrepresenting me to make yourself look holy?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 3:25 PM, keely emerinemix
> <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Yep, we now have the social safety net afforded by taxes being
> > >> > > > equated
> > >> > not
> > >> > > > only with theft and innate anti-Godliness, but now sociopathy . .
> .
> > >> > > > by
> > >> > > > church folks. Christians, even.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Strange days, indeed.
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > > Keely
> > >> > > > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >
> > >> > > >> Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 08:11:36 -0800
> > >> > > >> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > >> > > >> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > >> > > >> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free
> (not
> > >> > > >> in
> > >> > the
> > >> > > >> tank) Press
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Dave:
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> I'll make this simple because I do not want to tax your few
> > >> > > >> remaining
> > >> > > >> brains cells too much
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> You have to establish the boundaries of government, which
> includes
> > >> > > >> their authority to tax, before you declare a free for all.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> Paul feels perfectly comfortable when the government takes from
> > >> > > >> others
> > >> > > >> who are wealthier than he is but I have sneaking suspicion that
> his
> > >> > > >> comfort zone would soon be violated if the state came knocking
> on
> > >> > > >> his
> > >> > > >> door.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> As for you, you probably feel morally superior to me because of
> the
> > >> > > >> overwhelming generosity you display with other people's money.
> As
> > >> > > >> for
> > >> > > >> sociopaths, maybe you should consider your lack of compunction
> when
> > >> > > >> it
> > >> > > >> comes to stealing from others.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> I would empathize with you but I'm afraid that's a moral trait I
> > >> > desire.
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >>
> > >> > > >> On 10/27/08, Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
> > >> > > >> > It is entirely obvious that no clue is totally devoid of
> empathy.
> > >> > > >> > Therefore, of course, a sociopath.
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Dave
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> >
> > >> > > >> > Paul Rumelhart wrote:
> > >> > > >> > > Are you really trying to equate a non-linear tax model as
> > >> > "socialism"?
> > >> > > >> > > That's a stretch, in my opinion. Everyone is still paying
> > >> > > >> > > taxes,
> > >> > > >> > > except
> > >> > > >> > > for the very poorest of us. The percentages just change.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > I also don't like the implication that the rich "earned it
> and
> > >> > deserve
> > >> > > >> > > it". That would imply that the poor and the middle class did
> > >> > > >> > > not
> > >> > earn
> > >> > > >> > > it or deserve it. That, fundamentally, is why I can't stand
> the
> > >> > > >> > > position you are taking. You appear to think that just
> because
> > >> > you've
> > >> > > >> > > been lucky (yes, lucky) enough to make good money, you
> deserve
> > >> > > >> > > it
> > >> > more
> > >> > > >> > > than the next guy. There are just as many hard-working poor
> and
> > >> > middle
> > >> > > >> > > class people as there are hard-working privileged people, if
> > >> > > >> > > not
> > >> > more.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > As for the fear that Obama will raise taxes for everyone
> > >> > eventually,
> > >> > > >> > > well, someone has to take responsibility and pay back the
> > >> > > >> > > enormous
> > >> > > >> > > debt
> > >> > > >> > > that the current administration has heaped on us, don' t you
> > >> > > >> > > think?
> > >> > > >> > > Especially if we intend to continue the nationalizing of
> banks
> > >> > > >> > > that
> > >> > > >> > > the
> > >> > > >> > > current administration has started.
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > Paul
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > > No Weatherman wrote:
> > >> > > >> > >
> > >> > > >> > >>> Actually, it's called paying a portion of what you make to
> a
> > >> > central
> > >> > > >> > >>> pool
> > >> > > >> > >>> which will be used to take care of things no one person
> wants
> > >> > > >> > >>> to
> > >> > > >> > >>> take care
> > >> > > >> > >>> of. Things like roads, military defense, social security,
> > >> > research,
> > >> > > >> > >>> education, health care, the national debt, disaster
> relief,
> > >> > > >> > >>> veteran's
> > >> > > >> > >>> benefits, and the occasional crackhead and/or welfare
> queen
> > >> > > >> > >>> that
> > >> > > >> > >>> gets away
> > >> > > >> > >>> with gaming the system.
> > >> > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > >> > >> You need to distinguish between tax-based necessities and
> > >> > tax-based
> > >> > > >> > >> socialism. Crackheads and welfare queens are not in the
> same
> > >> > category
> > >> > > >> > >> as roads, defense, vet's benefits, etc.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >>> The "minority" has been getting away with murder for
> longer
> > >> > > >> > >>> than
> > >> > you
> > >> > > >> > >>> or I
> > >> > > >> > >>> have been around. They've been sipping mai-tais in Hawaii
> and
> > >> > > >> > >>> complaining
> > >> > > >> > >>> that their new Beemer has a scratch on the fender. They
> don't
> > >> > arouse
> > >> > > >> > >>> all
> > >> > > >> > >>> that much pity from me. They can survive a tax hike far
> more
> > >> > easily
> > >> > > >> > >>> than
> > >> > > >> > >>> the other 95% of us can.
> > >> > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > >> > >>>
> > >> > > >> > >> Strawman notwithstanding, if they earned it they deserve
> it.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> And the moment you arbitrarily draw the line at Hawaiian
> > >> > > >> > >> vacations
> > >> > > >> > >> and
> > >> > > >> > >> Beemers, you've invited the Obamas of the world
> (socialists)
> > >> > > >> > >> to
> > >> > move
> > >> > > >> > >> that line anywhere they want.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> Do you know where they want to move it?
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> Last I heard Obama floated $250,000 and you and I both know
> > >> > > >> > >> that's
> > >> > > >> > >> not
> > >> > > >> > >> low enough to finance his vision.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> It doesn't matter, though, because you've already given him
> > >> > > >> > >> permission
> > >> > > >> > >> to take other people's money so he can redistribute it to
> the
> > >> > > >> > >> crackheads.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> So he'll nudge it down to $200,000. Then $150,000. Then
> > >> > > >> > >> $100,000.
> > >> > And
> > >> > > >> > >> before you know it, somewhere in there he found our
> bracket.
> > >> > > >> > >> He'll
> > >> > > >> > >> find Ms. Lund's bracket. He'll find Ms. Mix's bracket.
> He'll
> > >> > > >> > >> find
> > >> > Mr.
> > >> > > >> > >> London's bracket. He'll find Mr. Hansen's rubber doll's
> > >> > > >> > >> bracket.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> Once you give him permission to redistribute wealth, it
> won't
> > >> > > >> > >> stop
> > >> > at
> > >> > > >> > >> $250,000.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >> Obama doesn't want "rich" people's money. He wants
> everyone's
> > >> > money.
> > >> > > >> > >> He's a Farraking Communist.
> > >> > > >> > >>
> > >> > > >> > >>
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