[Vision2020] Obama cancels interview with a Free (not in the tank) Press

[No Weatherman]

Dave:

I'll make this simple because I do not want to tax your few remaining
brains cells too much

You have to establish the boundaries of government, which includes
their authority to tax, before you declare a free for all.

Paul feels perfectly comfortable when the government takes from others
who are wealthier than he is but I have sneaking suspicion that his
comfort zone would soon be violated if the state came knocking on his
door.

As for you, you probably feel morally superior to me because of the
overwhelming generosity you display with other people's money. As for
sociopaths, maybe you should consider your lack of compunction when it
comes to stealing from others.

I would empathize with you but I'm afraid that's a moral trait I desire.


On 10/27/08, Dave <tiedye at turbonet.com> wrote:
> It is entirely obvious that no clue is totally devoid of empathy.
>  Therefore, of course, a sociopath.
>
>  Dave
>
>
>
>  Paul Rumelhart wrote:
>  > Are you really trying to equate a non-linear tax model as "socialism"?
>  > That's a stretch, in my opinion.  Everyone is still paying taxes, except
>  > for the very poorest of us.  The percentages just change.
>  >
>  > I also don't like the implication that the rich "earned it and deserve
>  > it".  That would imply that the poor and the middle class did not earn
>  > it or deserve it.  That, fundamentally, is why I can't stand the
>  > position you are taking.  You appear to think that just because you've
>  > been lucky (yes, lucky) enough to make good money, you deserve it more
>  > than the next guy.  There are just as many hard-working poor and middle
>  > class people as there are hard-working privileged people, if not more.
>  >
>  > As for the fear that Obama will raise taxes for everyone eventually,
>  > well, someone has to take responsibility and pay back the enormous debt
>  > that the current administration has heaped on us, don' t you think?
>  > Especially if we intend to continue the nationalizing of banks that the
>  > current administration has started.
>  >
>  > Paul
>  >
>  > No Weatherman wrote:
>  >
>  >>>  Actually, it's called paying a portion of what you make to a central pool
>  >>> which will be used to take care of things no one person wants to take care
>  >>> of.  Things like roads, military defense, social security, research,
>  >>> education, health care, the national debt, disaster relief, veteran's
>  >>> benefits, and the occasional crackhead and/or welfare queen that gets away
>  >>> with gaming the system.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >> You need to distinguish between tax-based necessities and tax-based
>  >> socialism. Crackheads and welfare queens are not in the same category
>  >> as roads, defense, vet's benefits, etc.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>>  The "minority" has been getting away with murder for longer than you or I
>  >>> have been around.  They've been sipping mai-tais in Hawaii and complaining
>  >>> that their new Beemer has a scratch on the fender.  They don't arouse all
>  >>> that much pity from me.  They can survive a tax hike far more easily than
>  >>> the other 95% of us can.
>  >>>
>  >>>
>  >> Strawman notwithstanding, if they earned it they deserve it.
>  >>
>  >> And the moment you arbitrarily draw the line at Hawaiian vacations and
>  >> Beemers, you've invited the Obamas of the world (socialists) to move
>  >> that line anywhere they want.
>  >>
>  >> Do you know where they want to move it?
>  >>
>  >> Last I heard Obama floated $250,000 and you and I both know that's not
>  >> low enough to finance his vision.
>  >>
>  >> It doesn't matter, though, because you've already given him permission
>  >> to take other people's money so he can redistribute it to the
>  >> crackheads.
>  >>
>  >> So he'll nudge it down to $200,000. Then $150,000. Then $100,000. And
>  >> before you know it, somewhere in there he found our bracket. He'll
>  >> find Ms. Lund's bracket. He'll find Ms. Mix's bracket. He'll find Mr.
>  >> London's bracket. He'll find Mr. Hansen's rubber doll's bracket.
>  >>
>  >> Once you give him permission to redistribute wealth, it won't stop at $250,000.
>  >>
>  >> Obama doesn't want "rich" people's money. He wants everyone's money.
>  >> He's a Farraking Communist.
>  >>
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