[Vision2020] To Know Her Is To Respect Her

No Weatherman no.weatherman at gmail.com
Sun Oct 26 08:11:29 PDT 2008


Ms. Roskovich:

You are entitled to your opinion as I am mine.

However, I wish that just once someone in this forum would offer an
honest criticism of Gov Palin instead of an SNL straw man.


On Sun, Oct 26, 2008 at 7:49 AM, Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Being able to "connect to people" is not a quality worthy of "respect". . .
> . nor is being a sex object.
>
> And that Palin/Biden thingy wasn't a debate. . . it was a debacle.  The
> moderator was totally unable to keep Palin from going off on her own tangent
> rather than keep to the issues presented to her.  That's because she can't
> form a thought and then put it into a sentence.
>
> She has abused her power as Governor.  She went on a spending spree and left
> her town in debt when she was mayor.  And we could go on and on and on. . .
> . .
>
> Oh, but let's give the little lady some respect. . . . why?  Because she has
> a nice ass?
>
> Not in this lifetime, buddy.
>
> Ellen A. Roskovich
>
>
>> Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2008 06:49:50 -0700
>> From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Subject: [Vision2020] To Know Her Is To Respect Her
>>
>> To Know Her Is To Respect Her
>> The great Palin divide.
>> by Fred Barnes
>>
>> Lorne Michaels is the longtime executive producer of Saturday Night
>> Live. Sarah Palin appeared on SNL in mid-October, after which Michaels
>> noted, "Her politics aren't my politics." But that wasn't all he said.
>> "I think Palin will continue to be underestimated," Michaels told
>> EW.com. "I watched the way she connected with people, and you can see
>> that she's a very powerful, very disciplined, incredibly gracious
>> woman. This was her first time out and she's had a huge impact. People
>> connect to her."
>>
>> Randy Ruedrich, the Republican chairman in Alaska, is someone you
>> might suspect would be a friend and ally of Palin. He isn't. She
>> helped drive him off the state's Oil and Gas Conservation Commission,
>> criticized him publicly, and later tried to get him ousted as party
>> chairman. Ruedrich is part of the "body count" of male politicians
>> Palin left behind as she rose to become governor of Alaska. Yet
>> Ruedrich says Palin is smart, very capable, and a political star.
>>
>> Ruedrich isn't alone among Alaska politicians who take a cold-blooded
>> view of Palin. Another Republican who has followed her career closely
>> believes Palin has a ruthless streak. Yet this person, too, regards
>> Palin as a rare talent with the skill and self-confidence to be a
>> national political leader. And Palin's Alaska acquaintances were
>> certain, from the moment she became John McCain's vice presidential
>> running mate, that her acceptance speech would be a smashing success
>> and she'd have little trouble in her debate with Joe Biden. Turned out
>> they were right.
>>
>> But that didn't matter. The positive assessment of Palin by those who
>> know her or have worked with her has come close to being drowned out
>> by her critics, from the right and the left. Kathleen Parker, a
>> conservative columnist, wrote last week that McCain was seduced by
>> Palin's attractiveness into picking her as his running mate. The basis
>> for Parker's conclusion was a comment by her husband about Palin,
>> seconded by a friend ("I'm sexually attracted to her"), and a magazine
>> article. Palin doesn't recall ever having met Parker, much less been
>> interviewed by her.
>>
>> Peggy Noonan, the former White House speechwriter for President Reagan
>> who now writes for the Wall Street Journal, has run hot and cold on
>> Palin, mostly cold. What appears to be her final judgment is that
>> Palin's nomination for vice president is "no good, not for
>> conservatism and not for the country. And, yes, it's a mark against
>> John McCain." Palin and Noonan have never conversed either.
>>
>> David Brooks, the New York Times columnist, has rendered an even
>> harsher verdict, calling Palin "a fatal cancer to the Republican
>> party." So far as Palin knows, she's never met Brooks or been
>> interviewed by him.
>>
>> And then there's the view of Matthew Dowd, a top strategist for
>> President Bush's reelection campaign in 2004. He's been quoted as
>> saying that McCain actually knows now that Palin is unqualified to be
>> vice president. By choosing her, McCain "put the country at risk."
>>
>> The difference of opinion here, between those who know Palin and those
>> who don't, is unusual. The criticism of Palin is personal. Normally in
>> politics, campaign operatives are called on to make excuses for a dull
>> and uninspiring candidate. Invariably, they explain that in private,
>> especially face-to-face with a small group of voters, the candidate is
>> dazzlingly likable and enormously persuasive.
>>
>> With Palin, it's the opposite. No one questions her ability to excite
>> a crowd. Simply by stepping on stage at rallies, Palin rouses
>> audiences, and her speeches are frequently interrupted by chants of
>> "Sarah, Sarah, Sarah."
>>
>> It's the private Palin, the person — who she is, what she knows, her
>> lack of experience — that has provoked both the strongest criticism
>> and most legitimate doubts about her readiness to be first in the line
>> of succession if the president dies or is incapacitated.
>>
>> A media person I know dismisses her as "a journalism graduate of the
>> University of Idaho." This is pure snobbery. I asked him to name his
>> favorite president of the past 60 or 70 years, and he chose Harry
>> Truman. Truman never went to college but became a pretty good
>> president nonetheless when he succeeded FDR after only a few weeks as
>> vice president.
>> The issue of experience is more serious. Palin, a governor for less
>> than two years, has no record in national affairs, with the exception
>> of one issue — energy. And with gasoline prices falling, that issue
>> has become less important than expected in the campaign.
>>
>> On foreign and national security affairs, Palin has a knowledge gap.
>> Indeed, if she knew more, she might have skewered Biden for the
>> whoppers he told — about the Middle East, Iraq, Afghanistan,
>> Pakistan — in their debate on October 2. The press, while critical of
>> Palin, didn't notice the inaccuracies either, or at least failed to
>> draw attention to them.
>>
>> Lack of experience is a recurring issue not only for vice presidential
>> candidates, but for presidential nominees as well. Barack Obama has
>> been attacked for his limited experience in foreign policy. And though
>> Biden, his running mate, has spent 36 years in the Senate, he seems to
>> have learned very little from this experience.
>>
>> Palin is in a familiar situation. Governors who run for national
>> office automatically face questions about their inexperience in
>> foreign affairs. Ronald Reagan did. Bill Clinton did. So did George W.
>> Bush. Had Obama picked Virginia governor Tim Kaine as his veep, Kaine
>> would have been hit with those questions. If McCain had chosen
>> Minnesota governor Tim Pawlenty (as he came close to doing), Pawlenty
>> would have faced the same doubts. So the qualms about Palin's
>> experience are merely par for the course.
>>
>> Palin's record is another critical test of her personal skill as a
>> leader. What has she done? A lot more than Kaine or Pawlenty or most
>> governors. She ousted an incumbent governor of her own party,
>> successfully fought corruption in the party, and tore up a deal with
>> oil companies, forcing them to accept a less lucrative agreement on a
>> new natural gas pipeline.
>>
>> In judging Palin, it comes down to who is more credible. Is it those
>> who've worked with her, or know her, or have at least met and talked
>> with her? Or those who haven't? The answer is a no-brainer. Okay, I
>> may be biased on the subject of Palin, having been impressed after
>> spending nearly two hours with her on one occasion and an hour on
>> another.
>>
>> My advice is ignore the critics who know far less about Palin than she
>> does about foreign policy. A good example is Ken Adelman, who headed
>> the arms control agency in the Reagan administration. Adelman recently
>> endorsed Obama and said he "would not have hired [Palin] for even a
>> mid-level post in the arms control agency." Well, I know both Palin
>> and Adelman. And Ken, I'm sorry to tell you, but I think there are an
>> awful lot of jobs in Washington that Palin would get before you.
>>
>> http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/015/749yrvfv.asp
>>
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