[Vision2020] Kevin Coe Didn't do his time

[Paul Rumelhart]

Is "propensity for evil" described in the DSM-IV somewhere?  If he's 
shown to have a verifiable disorder, then I can see them sending him to 
McNeil.  If it's an attempt to punish him because he's evil or because 
he's unrepentant and not because he has a verifiable disorder, then he 
shouldn't be sent there.

Containing and managing a propensity for evil by locking him up at 
McNeil after his sentence has run out is punitive if that is the only 
reason.

As odious as it might be to say, he has rights too.

Paul

keely emerinemix wrote:
> Thanks, Tom.  The problem I have with Coe's time at McNeil is that he 
> steadfastly refuses to acknowledge that he's done anything wrong, and 
> he refuses treatment.  At best, McNeil will, however non-punitively, 
> simly be able to contain and manage a propensity for evil that Coe 
> refuses to acknowledge.
>
> Keely
> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
>
>
> > To: ophite at gmail.com; donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; 
> vision2020 at moscow.com; fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> > From: thansen at moscow.com
> > Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2008 13:18:17 +0000
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kevin Coe Didn't do his time
> >
> > Andreas stated:
> >
> > " . . . if we're going to treat it [civil commitment] as a civil 
> adjunct
> > to the criminal justice process, it has to be therapeutic rather than
> > punitive."
> >
> > The McNeil Island Special Treatment Center falls under the purview and
> > management of the Washington State Department of Social and Health
> > Services, NOT the state correctional system.
> >
> > The treatment provided to resident patients of the center is 
> detailed on
> > their website at:
> >
> > http://www1.dshs.wa.gov/hrsa/scc/TreatmentProgram.htm
> >
> > Fukrthermore,
> >
> > "Each Special Commitment Center (SCC) resident has a right to an annual
> > review hearing before the court of commitment to evaluate the 
> resident’s
> > progress in treatment. If the court finds that the resident has made
> > progress to the point that the resident can be safely managed in the
> > community, the court may order the resident’s conditional release to a
> > less restrictive alternative(LRA) community placement."
> >
> > "Conditional Release" is explained on the center's website at:
> >
> > http://www1.dshs.wa.gov/hrsa/scc/ConditionalRelease.htm
> >
> > The "less restrictive alternative" is fukrther explained on the 
> center's
> > website at:
> >
> > http://www1.dshs.wa.gov/hrsa/scc/LRA.htm
> >
> > It is my impression that the McNeil Island Special Treatment Center 
> is NOT
> > the "Devils Island" you portray it to be.
> >
> > A brief history of McNeil Island is accessible from Wikipedia at:
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McNeil_Island
> >
> > "It was named in 1841 by Charles Wilkes during the United States 
> Exploring
> > Expedition in honor of Captain William Henry McNeill of the Hudson's 
> Bay
> > Company. McNeill was at Fort Nisqually in 1841 and greeting Wilkes upon
> > arrival in southern Puget Sound.
> >
> > The Robert A. Inskip expedition of 1846 named the island Duntze, after
> > Captain John A. Duntze of the Royal Navy. In 1847, during the 
> British map
> > reorganization project, Henry Kellett restored the earlier name 
> McNeil.[2]
> >
> > The United States government bought land on McNeil Island in 1870 and
> > opened a federal penitentiary there in 1875. Its most famous inmate was
> > probably Robert Stroud, the "Birdman of Alcatraz," who was held 
> there from
> > 1909 to 1912. By 1937 the federal government, which had been 
> accumulating
> > parcels of land adjacent to the penitentiary, had purchased all the 
> land
> > on the island and compelled its last residents to leave. Charles Manson
> > was an inmate from 1961 to 1966 for trying to cash a government check.
> >
> > Washington state took over the penitentiary from the federal 
> government in
> > 1981. It is now called McNeil Island Corrections Center (MICC). The 
> state
> > claims, erroneously, that it has been a territorial, federal, and state
> > prison. In fact it was never a territorial institution, the territorial
> > penitentiary was first located at Seatco (now Bucoda), then 
> relocated to
> > Walla Walla (where it stands to this day as the state penitentiary). 
> It is
> > the only prison left in North America that is only accessible by 
> boat or
> > air. It is presently the site of the state's primary Special Commitment
> > Center (SCC), where sexually violent predators are committed for 
> treatment
> > after completing their standard prison sentences."
> >
> > Granted, it isn't exactly Coronado Island (with its four-star hotel and
> > amenities in southern California), but the Special Treatment Center is
> > geared toward treatment, not punishment.
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Moscow, Idaho
> >
> >
> >
> >
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