[Vision2020] A Plea to Visionaires

No Weatherman no.weatherman at gmail.com
Sat Oct 18 07:16:29 PDT 2008


Donovan:

Writing as one person who apparently has caused some people to abandon
this forum to another person who has absolutely caused many others to
abandon this forum, I can say with comfortable assurance that your
unflagging support of Barack Obama must give my critics great
encouragement.

That's change I believe in.



On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 11:16 PM, Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> BJ,
>
> I think "No Weatherman" helps to solidify the thesis that many anti-Obama
> individuals are irrational people who believe falsehoods about him.
>
> There are many reasons not to support Obama. But when people such as "No
> Weatherman" push radical and mostly incorrect information about him, it only
> shows the desperation and irrational thinking of many Anti-Obama people, and
> helps Obama.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On Fri, 10/17/08, B. J. Swanson <bjswan at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> From: B. J. Swanson <bjswan at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] A Plea to Visionaires
> To: "'Tom Hansen'" <thansen at moscow.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 6:58 AM
>
> Tom,
>
> I couldn't agree more.  Please understand that by continuing to respond to
> No Weatherman, you are destroying Vision 2020.  Please just bite your
> fingers and ignore.
>
> Thank you,
>
> B. J. Swanson
>
> ---------------
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
> Sent: Friday, October 17, 2008 6:48 AM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] A Plea to Visionaires
>
> Greetings Visionaires -
>
> Let me preface my request with a short Vision 2020 history lesson.
>
> Over the years that I have subscribed to the Vision 2020 listserve, there
> have been several attempts to shut it down.
>
> First there was an attempt to establish a Vision 2020 monitor whose
> apparent duties would have been to determine acceptable topics to discuss
> and to remove any subscribers failing to stay in lockstep with guidelines
> established by The Monitor.
>
> Then there was the infamous letter/email, sent to First Step Internet (the
> techies that maintain the Vision 2020 listserve), demanding that the Vision
> 2020 listserve be terminated as the anonymous authors of the letter/email
> felt beleaguered and harassed by its continuance.
>
> There have been other attempts to shut down this listserve.  However, like
> those two attempts outlined above, they failed.
>
> And now the listserve is forced to endure No Weatherman and its attempt to
> eliminate the Vision 2020 listserve.
>
> It is my strong impression that No Weathermans purpose is to post racist,
> ignorant, marginally-threatening, rude, and extremely profane comments to
> the listserve in attempt to degenerate the quality of the listserves
> purpose, as more and more subscribers disappear into Moscows anonymity,
> their thoughts not to be shared again.
>
> I strongly believe in the Vision.  Its purpose is to provide a venue for
> sharing thoughts of community and how that community may be improved, not
> only for us, but four our children.
>
> If the Vision were to shut down, a very, most vital source of community
> interaction disappears with it.
>
> My suggestion is to merely ignore No Weatherman, regardless of its
> rantings.  Eventually it will catch on and disappear along with its
> predecessor, The Monitor.
>
> Lets keep this virtual town hall meeting alive.
>
> In the interim . . .
>
> Seey at Farmers Market, Moscow.
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
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