[Vision2020] Kevin Coe Didn't do his time

Sat Oct 18 01:00:24 PDT 2008

Detention without trial is kidnapping. I agree that civil commitment -- even
permanent civil commitment -- is a workable alternative, but if we're going
to treat it as a civil adjunct to the criminal justice process, it has to be
therapeutic rather than punitive.

-- ACS

I think spending millions on trying Coe for each crime he committed is a
> waste of money. He is mentally ill. You do not release the mentally ill and
> violent sex offenders into the general public.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> --- On *Fri, 10/17/08, Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>* wrote:
>
> From: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Kevin Coe Didn't do his time
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com, "Kai Eiselein" <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>
> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 7:05 PM
>
>
>  You want to imprison somebody? Try them in court. He's done his time for
> what he's been convicted of.
>
> -- ACS
>
> On Fri, Oct 17, 2008 at 7:02 PM, Donovan Arnold <
> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>   I think you guys are incorrect when you say he did his time. Coe was
>> actually only convicted on one of the 44 counts of rape. He still can be
>> tried for the remaining 43, as well he should. Not to mention a whole host
>> of other crimes he was never brought up on.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Donovan
>>
>> --- On *Fri, 10/17/08, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Kevin Coe
>> To: "Kai Eiselein" <fotopro63 at hotmail.com>
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Date: Friday, October 17, 2008, 4:15 PM
>>
>> As much as I hate to say it, because I hate being tarred with the
>> "defending rapists" brush, Kai's right on this one, at least as
>> far as
>> his stance on thought crimes.  He did his time.  We can't put people in
>> jail just because we think they might commit crimes.  We can't put them
>> in jail even if they say they will commit a crime next chance they get.
>> The government can stay out of my head, thank you very much.
>>
>> What it boils down to is: if he is seriously mentally ill, they should
>> be able to put him away for his own good as well as others.  If they
>> can't show that, then he has to go free. We either go with the system we
>> have or toss it all out the window.  We can't just make an exception
>> because we really, really, don't like this guy.
>>
>> I don't know if Kai was actually suggesting that we put rapists to
>> death, but if so I'm against it.  Philosophical issues aside, it's too
>> easy to convict the wrong guy.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Kai Eiselein wrote:
>> > I, too, have mixed feelings.
>> > I moved to Spokane, from Montana, shortly after Coe's arrest. The
>> > anger in Spokane at this man was palpable and surfaced often during
>> > his trial. I believe that same anger is at the core of Coe's
>> > commitment trial, due in large part to Coe's apparent lack of remorse
>> > or apology for his actions.
>> > Rather than following a path of treatment, Coe served out his full
>> > sentence and remained defiant.
>> > Coe has served the sentence handed down, 25 years. Not 25 years IF he
>> > completed a list of conditions. There was no condition to his release
>> > after serving his full term.
>> > I believe anger at Coe's defiance has led to his continued
>> incarceration.
>> > Still, Coe is do doubt a dangerous man and a menace to any community.
>> > BUT>>>
>> > Are we now sentencing people for crimes we fear they MAY commit? That
>> > is the greater question and in essence is what the civil comitment
>> > trial was about.
>> > On the other hand...
>> > If Coe raped again, what about the victim, who could have been spared?
>> > I am torn, on one hand I feel it is the "safe" thing to do. On
>> the
>> > other, I feel it is a continued punishment on someone who has served
>> > the sentence put upon him.
>> > Frankly, a sentence of death would have avoided all of the above.
>> >
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