[Vision2020] ACORN: More Fraud You Can Believe In

lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
Fri Oct 10 11:50:01 PDT 2008


Thats good
Roger
-----Original message-----
From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 10:19:53 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com,  Chasuk chasuk at gmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] ACORN: More Fraud You Can Believe In

> Roger -
> 
> Unlike Florida 2000 (hanging chads and disenfranchised low-income voters) 
> and Ohio 2004 (uncertified/questionable voting machines), it has been 
> reported that the FBI is looking into ACORN for potential fraud.
> 
> Take your pick from any of the many links at:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/AcornProbe
> 
> Happy now?
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Mosciw, Idaho
> 
> > 
> > Chas
> > I think that you are wrong to think that the Management of ACORN did not 
> know or
> orchestrate the voter fraud. To give them some credit though, I have heard 
> that their Bord
> of Directors is investigating it. I hope that the FBI or Justice 
> Department will
> investigate and make a full disclosure of who all was involve.
> > Roger
> > 
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: Chasuk chasuk at gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2008 14:59:56 -0700
> > To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] ACORN: More Fraud You Can Believe In
> > 
> > > On Thu, Oct 9, 2008 at 12:36, lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > More than a few overworked employees. This has occurred in at least 
> a half a dozen
> states. You are making excuses for them.I have said that what Liddy did 
> was wrong, why
> won.t you admit that what ACORN is doing is wrong?
> > > 
> > > Because "ACORN" did nothing.  Dishonest employees working of their own
> > > accord did.
> > > 
> > > To cut-and-paste:
> > > 
> > > Applicants were fabricated and documents falsified for the reasons I
> > > already gave.  To elaborate: tired, unwise, probably underpaid workers
> > > trying to meet their daily or weekly quota.  I've seen it happen it
> > > telesales, I've seen it happen in "tele-surveys" when workers invented
> > > applicants for the same bad reasons.
> > > 
> > > It was wrong, it was stupid, and I am neither condoning nor justifying
> > > it.  But there is no evidence that it was endemic, institutionalized,
> > > or encouraged by ACORN.
> > > 
> > > So there were a few bad apples who were turned in by ACORN, and a raid
> > > proceeds, either occuring independently or inspired by ACORN's
> > > disclosure.
> > > 
> > > That isn't remotely similar to criminal acts actually coordinated by
> > > the executive branch of government.
> > 
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> "Jesus was a community organizer and Poncius Pilate was a governor."
> 
> - Marilyn Trail, sister of Representative Tom trail (September 8, 2008)
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> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> 
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