[Vision2020] Frank Rich NY Times op-ed

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Mon Oct 6 06:18:24 PDT 2008


If I was as dishonest as you I would want to change the subject too.


On 10/5/08, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
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>  Your name, please?
>
> Keely
> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
>
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> > Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 16:37:32 -0600
> > From: no.weatherman at gmail.com
> > To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Frank Rich NY Times op-ed
>
> >
> > Ms. Mix,
> >
> > You should apply for a job with Rolling Stone because your skill at
> > isolating quotes out of context to set the speaker in a false light is
> > matched only by their skill at air brushing.
> >
> > You wrote this:
> >
> > "These are serious times for this nation, and I pray that truth will
> > overcome deception, obfuscation, and lies of omission and commission.
> > And I'll add that I'm especially dismayed that Palin saw fit to
> > suggest that Obama 'doesn't see America like you and I do,' which is
> > more Right-speak for 'See? He ain't one of us!'"
> >
> > But the critical context that you left out was that Palin was speaking
> > to a partisan crowd of donors in a closed-door fund-raising event.
> > Here are her words without your interpretation:
> >
> > "Our opponent . . . is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so
> > imperfect, imperfect enough, that he's palling around with terrorists
> > who would target their own country. . . . This is not a man who sees
> > America as you see America and as I see America."
> >
> > And here's the complete article that you interpreted in a false light:
> >
> >
> http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D93JSBFO0&show_article=1
> >
> > The correct interpretation of this quotation is that Sarah Palin
> > appealed to her political base's sense of patriotism and its sense of
> > national security by pointing out the unnerving fact of Barack Hussein
> > Obama's close personal friendship with domestic terrorist Bill Ayers,
> > which is a subject I may have mentioned before.
> >
> > I seriously doubt she would try to make this appeal at Rev. Wright's
> > church, or at a Weather Underground reunion, or at a Black Panther
> > meeting, or on Vision 20/20 because it's only an effective argument
> > with right-wingers who find Obama's associations disturbing.
> >
> > By comparison, Obama made the following remark at a private fundraiser
> > and not on the stump because this kind of rhetoric brings in large
> > sums of cash from his political base, though it torpedoes votes rather
> > quickly:
> >
> > "You go into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of
> > small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years
> > and nothing's replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton
> > administration, and the Bush administration, and each successive
> > administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna
> > regenerate and they have not.
> >
> > "And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or
> > religion or antipathy toward people who aren't like them or
> > anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain
> > their frustrations."
> >
> >
> http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0408/Obama_on_smalltown_PA_Clinging_religion_guns_xenophobia.html
> >
> > If you ask me, you come off as bitter though I don't see you toting
> > guns around town.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:01 PM, keely emerinemix <kjajmix1 at msn.com> wrote:
> > > I don't know how to do the hyperlink thing, so I'm going to have to hope
> I
> > > type this correctly:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/opinion/05rich.html
> > > This article by Frank Rich, who I usually find to be dead-on, is
> brilliant.
> > > It's troubling, yes, but it's the kind of thing we all need to hear and
> > > reflect on, especially those of us surrounded by Palin cheerleaders who
> find
> > > no misstep in her race for VP and no discordant note in her soundbites
> and
> > > speeches. I'll blog more on this later, but here's a particularly
> > > significant quote from Rich: " . . . But there's a steady, unnerving
> > > undertone to Palin's utterances, a consistent message of hubristic
> > > self-confidence and hyper-ambition. She wants to be president, she
> thinks
> > > she can be president, she thinks she will be president. And perhaps
> soon.
> > > She often sounds like someone who sees herself as half-a-heartbeat away
> from
> > > the presidency. Or who is seen that way by her own camp, the hard-right
> GOP
> > > base that never liked McCain anyway and views him as, at best, a White
> House
> > > place holder." (Frank Rich, October 5, 2008) These are serious times for
> > > this nation, and I pray that truth will overcome deception, obfuscation,
> and
> > > lies of omission and commission. And I'll add that I'm especially
> dismayed
> > > that Palin saw fit to suggest that Obama "doesn't see America like you
> and I
> > > do," which is more Right-speak for "See? He ain't one of us!" Locally,
> we've
> > > heard way too much of that -- against a U.S. citizen and professing
> > > Christian whose use of lofty rhetoric is consistent with what we expect
> from
> > > Presidents and those who hope to be, but who also -- and this is more
> rare
> > > -- backs it up with hard data, clear plans, workable policy, and a
> > > commitment to learning more that I think we can all agree is seriously
> > > lacking in our current administration. We talked about "truth" in church
> > > today, and I was blessed. I don't offer Rich's article as an example of
> > > truth, but as an invitation to think long and hard about what a
> Palin-McCain
> > > ticket (that's what it's looking like) would be. I can truthfully say
> I'm
> > > frightened at the prospect. Keely Keely
> > > http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
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