[Vision2020] Intoleristas (was Re: Who Dat?)

Mon Nov 24 20:37:38 PST 2008

Dear Paul,

I understand what you're saying but there are a few parts of the puzzle that
are missing. You were "a little miffed" when punished for your comment about
Christ Church. You rarely say anything against them and your one
transgression was rebuffed strongly and quickly: 'Intoleresta' after just
one comment. You are surprised by this; you think it is an odd thing, a bit
of bad luck in need of explanation. That is funny.

I want to get together with you and some of my African and African-American
friends. I'll provide a handout with some of the subject lines to No
Weatherman's posts -- not the posts, just the subject lines -- and then you
explain to them how it is that you are able to talk to No Weatherman like he
is just another guy with a different point of view, the sort of point of
view that justifies the use of those words. Do you want me to remind you of
the subject lines? (You might want to check them out before answering.)

Some folks say things just to anger other people. That other people respond
in anger is not too surprising. There is no big mystery here.

Perhaps we should have lunch on a bet. I bet that by the end of the lunch I
will seem nothing like the person you think I am. It will have to be a
gentleman's bet, of course. But I'm willing to buy lunch anyway!

Best, Joe

On 11/23/08 12:48 PM, "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

> I'm kind of in the middle on the Intolerista thing.  I'm obviously far
> more liberal than most members of Christ Church, assuming we are using
> the common term and not whatever "classical liberal" term Dale was
> speaking about.  However, I think they have a point in that there does
> seem to be a large amount of intolerance towards that particular church
> by many of those on this list.  I've raised my objections before, so I
> won't really go into it here.  Granted, they are taking the term and
> running with it because it makes for great sound bites.
> 
> I was a little miffed a while back to find out that one of my posts here
> on the viz ended up on the "Intolerista Island" section of his blog.
> Not miffed in a copyright sort of way, but miffed I was assumed to be a
> card-carrying member.  The post, if I remember it right, was discussing
> my assertion that corporations don't have a right to make a profit.
> They, of course, loved the "sound bite" quality of that phrase and ran
> with it.  However, I was miffed because I don't think of myself as an
> Intolerista, because I disagree with those on this list about the amount
> of rancor we should be tossing at that particular group.  I think we'd
> be better off it we just accepted them freely into our community.
> 
> I do think they tend to paint with too broad a brush, and they like
> sound bites too much, in a mean, schoolyard bully sort of way.  I have
> given them at least two they seem to like (the one mentioned above and
> "I'm not looking for a Jesus to be President" or something similar to that).
> 
> Btw, if Dale or Doug are reading this, I'd like to know what about that
> particular random post they thought made me worthy of being included in
> the Intolerista community.  Not that I really mind the association that
> much, but I thought I was doing a better job of leaning towards the
> middle in this particular area.  I assumed they were far more favorable
> towards the idea of a free market than they apparently are.  My point
> about corporations not having a right to make a profit was meant to
> convey the idea that they should all compete on a level playing field,
> and should not be lobbying to make special rules for them to survive
> when they otherwise shouldn't.  Instead of gaming the system, they
> should simply die off if they don't have the right qualities to be able
> to make a profit.
> 
> Paul
> 
> keely emerinemix wrote:
>> Do I detect the mellifluous dulcet tones of Dale Courtney?
>> 
>> Keely
>> http://keely-prevailingwinds.blogspot.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> From: thansen at moscow.com
>>> Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 19:39:32 +0000
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Who Dat?
>>> 
>>> Greetings Visionaires -
>>> 
>>> On February 27, 2005 KUOI's own Tim Lohrmann aired a 90-minute taped
>>> interview of a local individual concerning Moscow politics, taxes,
>>> property rights, etc. etc.
>>> 
>>> Linked below is a portion of that interview concerning the origin of
>> the
>>> term "Intoleristas".
>>> 
>>> I could give you a hint as to who this individual is, but I am
>> simply not
>>> of the right mind to do so. So, I leave it to you fine people of the
>> Viz
>>> to answer the question . . .
>>> 
>>> Who Dat?
>>> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Sounds/Intoleristas_KUOI_022705.mp3
>>> 
>>> Seeya round town, Moscow.
>>> 
>>> Tom Hansen
>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>> 
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