[Vision2020] A Weatherman Indeed

No Weatherman no.weatherman at gmail.com
Tue Nov 4 15:59:33 PST 2008


Ignore me.

I think you're on to something.

Ignorance is befitting you.



On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Bill London <london at moscow.com> wrote:
> Rose--
> A very hearty welcome back to you...I am glad to read your passionate prose
> on V2020 again....
> Regarding your post (below) about our resident troll (Mr./Ms. No
> Weatherman), I think the solution is much more obvious than attempting to
> moderate or renovate V2020.  Let's just ignore the troll.  No responses to
> his/her incendiary and mean mud-bombs.
> If you feel like responding, don't.  Just count to ten and then send in a
> post on a different topic.  Let's rebuild the conversation.
> Thanks BL
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rosemary
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:39 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] A Weatherman Indeed
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> Visionaries:
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> The Weathermen aka The Weather Underground was a collection of mostly white,
> mostly privileged, underemployed, arguably over-educated, little brats who
> threw  violent and disruptive tantrums to emphasize their outrage at the
> imperialistic and militaristic actions of the federal government.  There was
> something singularly galling (not to mention criminal) about the
> post-adolescent jackasses who so arrogantly declared war on America, blew up
> some buildings (and a couple of their own members) and eventually
> (predictably) settled into the comfortable, upper middle-class lives they
> claimed to disdain.
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> Now Vision 2020 has a Weatherman doppelgänge of its very own - self
> important, parochially brainwashed, rude as only the self-entitled can be,
> disruptive,  threatening, and unquestionably a jackass.  Bill Ayers
> apparently offered the justification for the extraordinarily intrusive
> behavior of No Weatherman while concurrently serving as a role model.
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> For all Ayers'  faults - and they are numerous - Bill Ayers appears to live
> – at least at this point – in the real world. Trolls like No Weatherman
> inhabit the land of Magical Thinking – where their coercive and obsessive
> monopolization of conversation is a futile attempt to fill the chasm that
> marks the boundary between maturity and immaturity, gravitas and a
> pathetically prolonged adolescence, mental health and emotional fragility, a
> sense of being grounded in the community and the wild flaying of an
> untethered ego.  Are his pompous pronouncements irritating as hell? You
> betcha.  Are his piddling pretensions  of  educating 2020 readers insulting
> and limited in intellectual scope?  You betcha.  He is a sad and sorry piece
> of work. You definitely betcha.
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> No Weatherman's conversational style is reminiscent of a shrieking child in
> the candy aisle demanding (and getting) a bag of Skittles to shut him up.
> One can't help noticing the little monster and drawing some pretty plain
> conclusions about the adults in charge of him.  Similarly, perhaps it is
> time to revisit the goals and ground rules of V2020. If the intention of the
> founders was to encourage a free flowing, un-moderated community
> conversation it appears to be a failed strategy, or perhaps it succeeded
> beyond their wildest dreams.  However, when an anonymous bully is allowed,
> indeed encouraged  because of the lack of enforced guidelines - to dominate
> the conversation and threaten other posters the antithesis of communication
> has been achieved.  No pragmatist is surprised when a utopian concept is
> hijacked. Perhaps it's time for a realistic reappraisal of what does or does
> not contribute to a successful community chat group.  And, it is to be
> hoped, we will soon enjoy the implementation of a structure  that actually
> invites diverse and respectful participation.
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> Rose Huskey
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