[Vision2020] A Weatherman Indeed

[No Weatherman]

Ummmm.

I am free speechless.



On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Art Deco <deco at moscow.com> wrote:
> Based on the tone/style/obsessive nature of the postings, their carpet
> bombing style, and other probabilities arising from other information
> received, it would not surprise me if the same group of young cowards (No
> Weatherman) were/are involved in:
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> The vandalism of mostly Obama and other Democrat candidates' signs,
> particularly in the Fort Russell area,
> The recent attacks on the perceived (by the attacker) gender orientation of
> certain students at WSU,
> The string of arsons at WSU in the last year or so,
> The vast majority of the taggings that have plagued Moscow in the last two
> years,
> Several instances of vandalism in Moscow during the last few years, and
> Several other property crimes including the enter-from-the-roof-tops
> burglaries on Main Street going back at least a few years.
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> I hope that when the identities of those in the No Weatherman cabal and
> their adult encouragers/sponsors are discovered, a through investigation is
> made.
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> I understand from a friend that at least one instance of political sign
> destruction in Moscow was recorded on camera and the evidence was turned
> over to the MPD.  I hope these anti-freedom, unpatriotic crimes are
> vigorously investigated and prosecuted rigorously and their connection to
> the above list also investigated and prosecuted.  Failure to do so will be
> an ontologically defining episode for the MPD and prosecutors.
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> Having said that, I oppose rule changes for V2020.  The price of freedom of
> expression for all of us is that all exercise that freedom in their own
> ways.  Allowing the obsessive, paranoid-delusional No Weatherman cabal to
> clip the wings of V2020 would grant it a great victory, and also deal a
> great loss to local freedom of expression.
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> Wayne Fox
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> From: Rosemary
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 8:39 AM
> Subject: [Vision2020] A Weatherman Indeed
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> Visionaries:
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> The Weathermen aka The Weather Underground was a collection of mostly white,
> mostly privileged, underemployed, arguably over-educated, little brats who
> threw  violent and disruptive tantrums to emphasize their outrage at the
> imperialistic and militaristic actions of the federal government.  There was
> something singularly galling (not to mention criminal) about the
> post-adolescent jackasses who so arrogantly declared war on America, blew up
> some buildings (and a couple of their own members) and eventually
> (predictably) settled into the comfortable, upper middle-class lives they
> claimed to disdain.
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> Now Vision 2020 has a Weatherman doppelgänge of its very own - self
> important, parochially brainwashed, rude as only the self-entitled can be,
> disruptive,  threatening, and unquestionably a jackass.  Bill Ayers
> apparently offered the justification for the extraordinarily intrusive
> behavior of No Weatherman while concurrently serving as a role model.
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> For all Ayers'  faults - and they are numerous - Bill Ayers appears to live
> – at least at this point – in the real world. Trolls like No Weatherman
> inhabit the land of Magical Thinking – where their coercive and obsessive
> monopolization of conversation is a futile attempt to fill the chasm that
> marks the boundary between maturity and immaturity, gravitas and a
> pathetically prolonged adolescence, mental health and emotional fragility, a
> sense of being grounded in the community and the wild flaying of an
> untethered ego.  Are his pompous pronouncements irritating as hell? You
> betcha.  Are his piddling pretensions  of  educating 2020 readers insulting
> and limited in intellectual scope?  You betcha.  He is a sad and sorry piece
> of work. You definitely betcha.
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> No Weatherman's conversational style is reminiscent of a shrieking child in
> the candy aisle demanding (and getting) a bag of Skittles to shut him up.
> One can't help noticing the little monster and drawing some pretty plain
> conclusions about the adults in charge of him.  Similarly, perhaps it is
> time to revisit the goals and ground rules of V2020. If the intention of the
> founders was to encourage a free flowing, un-moderated community
> conversation it appears to be a failed strategy, or perhaps it succeeded
> beyond their wildest dreams.  However, when an anonymous bully is allowed,
> indeed encouraged  because of the lack of enforced guidelines - to dominate
> the conversation and threaten other posters the antithesis of communication
> has been achieved.  No pragmatist is surprised when a utopian concept is
> hijacked. Perhaps it's time for a realistic reappraisal of what does or does
> not contribute to a successful community chat group.  And, it is to be
> hoped, we will soon enjoy the implementation of a structure  that actually
> invites diverse and respectful participation.
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