[Vision2020] State Verifies Obama's Birth Certificate

[No Weatherman]

Paul:

I'll write this slowly.

The question at hand HAS NEVER BEEN Obama's US citizenship.

No one cares if Obama is a US citizen because the standard HAS NEVER
BEEN US citizenship.

The gov of California, Arnold Schwarzenegger, is a US citizen but he
can never hold the office of POTUS because he is not a "natural born
citizen" as required by Article II Section 1 of the US Constitution:

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United
States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution shall be
eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be
eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of
thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the
United States."

Therefore, the question before the court is whether or not Barack
Hussein Obama is a "natural born citizen" according to the terms of
the US Constitution.

This question becomes extremely complicated by two extremely
extraordinary circumstances in Obama's case:

1.	Even if Obama was born a US citizen (I don't buy it until I see
it), he still held dual citizenship as a natural born citizen of
Kenya. Dual citizenship complicates Obama's circumstance because the
point of "natural born citizenship" in the US Constitution was to
eliminate conflicts of interest that arise from dual loyalties.

2.	The second problem for Obama is that when Obama was seven years
old, Indonesia naturalized him as a citizen. At that time Indonesia
did not allow dual citizenship and therefore Obama lost his US
citizenship — "natural born" or otherwise. This is a problem because
it immediately raises the question of whether someone can reacquire
"natural born citizenship" after they lost it (renounced it).

3.	There's a third complication arising from the age of his mother
that I will not mention.

Therefore, the fake COLB doesn't mean Jack Shiite. The testimony of
two bureaucrats in Hawaii doesn't mean Jack Shiite. The opinions of
all the people in this forum (including me) doesn't mean Jack Shiite.

These things don't mean Jack Shiite because Obama has to establish
that he is a "natural born citizen," and not just a US citizen,
according to the terms of the US Constitution.

Obviously, this explains why Obama, the Harvard trained constitutional
lawyer, has ducked the issue and not offered answers.

Me, I think he's as screwed as Mr. Hansen's blow up doll.



On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 3:22 PM, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:
> The Director of Health for the State of Hawaii and the Registrar of Vital
> Statistics have stated that they have personally seen and verified that they
> have his birth certificate on record, the most that they are legally allowed
> to say if the person requesting the birth certificate has no "tangible
> interest in the vital record", and you're still skeptical?
>
> You know, you might actually change a few votes here if you put this amount
> of time and effort into studying his take on the issues and debated those.
> Paul
>
> No Weatherman wrote:
>>
>> Well. That settles it.
>>
>> Two people said they saw it.
>>
>> It must be true.
>>
>> But what happened when he lost his US citizenship after Indonesia
>> naturalized him?
>>
>> That's the question that no one has answered.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 12:08 PM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> http://www.kitv.com/politics/17860890/detail.html?rss=hon&psp=news
>>>
>>> HONOLULU -- The state's Department of Health director on Friday
>>> released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama
>>> birth certificate.
>>>
>>> The state has received multiple requesimg2008110111521817ts for a copy of
>>> Obama's birth
>>> certificate. State law does not allow officials to release the birth
>>> certificate of a person to someone outside of the family.
>>>
>>> There were rumors that Obama was born in Kenya, where his father is
>>> from. The Constitution requires that the president be a natural born
>>> citizen of the U.S.
>>>
>>> While many sites and news organizations have released copies provided
>>> by the Obama campaign, the rumors have persisted.
>>>
>>> "There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama's
>>> official birth certificate. State law (Hawai'i Revised Statutes
>>> §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to
>>> persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH
>>> Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.
>>>
>>> "Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai'i, along
>>> with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to
>>> oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen
>>> and verified that the Hawai'i State Department of Health has Sen.
>>> Obama's original birth certificate on record in accordance with state
>>> policies and procedures. No state official, including Governor Linda
>>> Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a
>>> manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the
>>> State of Hawai'i," Fukino said.
>>>
>>> Multiple lawsuits were filed to try and force Obama to provide proof
>>> of citizenship.
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