[Vision2020] just sarcasm? no!

[Chasuk]

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:

> My understanding of the riots of 2005 in France were not based on race, but
> based on foreigners taking their jobs.

First, I mentioned race and xenophobia.  Second, reflect that all of
these foreigner workers resembled foreigners, as well.  They were
unambiguously foreigner, due to their  race.  If they had been
indistinguishable from those comprising the dominant culture, the
level of agitation would have been much less.  I experienced this in
the UK; because I was white, I met zero hostility when applying for
social services.  For legal immigrants from Pakistan, however --
unmistakably of a different race -- the story was very different.

For a picture of the French situation, watch La Haine ("Hate"), which
also happens to be an excellent film.

> My claim is not baseless, she specifically states that White Men benefit
> from the current social order and thus don't have a right to ask questions
> or complain about their treatment.

That is a disingenuous simplification, as you well know.  Shame on
you.  I am beginning to suspect that maybe there are two or more
Donovan's operating on Vision2020.  The real Donovan wouldn't
mis-characterize Keely's words so freely.

Chas