[Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15

Wed May 14 11:28:38 PDT 2008

Donovan --

Wait. You're saying that discrimination exists because we refuse to ignore it?

Sure. Okay.

-- ACS

On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 12:19 AM, Donovan Arnold
<donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mo,
>
> I agree that discrimination still exists. But I think the reason why the US,
> unlike other western nations, has not moved past these hang ups is precisely
> because of the tactics used to try and end it.
>
> When we tell people they are wrong or should feel guilty because they are
> White, heterosexual, christian, non-disabled, male, etc, you quickly turn
> off the majority of people you are trying to convert.
>
> If we just hire, fire, include people based on merit, we would end
> discrimination quickly.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> Mo Hendrickson <hend5953 at vandals.uidaho.edu> wrote:
>
> It shouldn't matter, but unfortunately in our society, racism, sexism,
> classism, religious choice, sexual orientation, gender preference,
> disability, on and on and on, are still factors in discrimination.  We do
> not live in a color blind/gender blind etc society and until we do we need
> to make sure that people from under represented groups are at the table and
> part of the conversation, even if we may not agree with what they are
> saying.  It is important that we realize the inherent worth in all people
> for what they have to contribute to the betterment of our nation and world.
>
> I believe that Sue's original point was that this is a community event and
> at her first glance she did not see a woman on the panel.  An event that is
> trying to reach beyond faith lines should have a diverse panel.  I am very
> glad to see that it does, and I would imagine that there is plenty of
> diversity on the panel beyond the gender and race of those that are
> represented.  We all should be trying to make spaces for diversity to enter
> into the conversation so that one day we won't need to rely on those
> categories.
>
>
> -Mo
>
> ________________________________
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 15:26:46 -0700
> From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> To: suehovey at moscow.com; mhamilto at vetmed.wsu.edu; kjajmix1 at msn.com;
> london at moscow.com; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15
>
> Why are some people so obsessed with a person's gender, race, religion, and
> sexual orientation? Does it matter?
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Donovan
>
> Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
>
> Now I really stand corrected.  Thanks so much.
>
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Hamilton, Mary Jo
> To: Sue Hovey ; keely emerinemix ; Bill London ; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:08 AM
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15
> Chris Vaughn, representing the Bahai community, is also a woman.
>
> Mary Jo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Sue Hovey
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 10:08 AM
> To: keely emerinemix; Bill London; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15
>
> OOPS.  I didn't see Kayle's name.  Sorry for the comment.  But even so, 1 of
> 8 isn't all that representative.  Trinity Baptist, where I used to
> attend has never chosen to involve itself in any local Interfaith
> efforts.  The congregation perceives that kind of involvement as a dilution
> of Baptist tenets.
>
> Sue
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: keely emerinemix
> To: Sue Hovey ; Bill London ; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2008 9:51 AM
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15
> Kayle Rice is the female pastor of the UU . . . what saddens me, though, is
> the decision of conservative Christian churches to not involve themselves in
> this.
>
> Keely
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: suehovey at moscow.com
> To: london at moscow.com; vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 09:34:04 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15
>
> It looks interesting--too bad, though, women on the Palouse must be thought
> not to have any thoughts that would be valued in this setting.
>
> Sue Hovey
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill London
> To: vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 6:01 PM
> Subject: [Vision2020] Interfaith Panel Thurs. May 15
>
>
> There will be a panel discussion this coming Thursday, May 15 7pm -9pm at
> the 1912 Center in Moscow
>
> Subject: Promoting Peace and Harmony on the Palouse/ Spritiual Approches
> from Interfaith Perspectives
>
> Not only is this an important subject, it is the first interfaith panel we
> have had in a long time - and I hope you will come to learn and to support
> this effort. Come and bring your friends.
>
> Speakers: Rev. Kayle Rice, Unitarian Universalist Church of the Palouse
> (Moderator)
> Sayed Daoud, Pullman Islamic Center
> Lawrence Fox, Jewish Community of the Palouse
> Nicholas Gier, Prof Emeritus Philosophy, UI and Unitarian Church
> Walter Hesford, Prof. of English, UI and Emanuel Lutheran Church
> Ryder Stevens, US Army Chaplain, Christian Science Lecturer
> Chris Vaughn, Bahai, Community
>
> Summary by: Fr. Bill Taylor, St. Augustine Center, Moscow
>
> Questions/comments will be accepted from the floor
> Refreshments will be served
>
> Sponsored by: The Common Ministry WSU, Christian Science Society of
> Moscow-Pullman, Pullman Islamic Center, Unitarian Universalist Church of the
> Palouse
>
>
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