[Vision2020] Atheistic Soldier Files Suit
lfalen
lfalen at turbonet.com
Tue May 6 09:45:13 PDT 2008
This does not compute to me. I was in the Army in the early 60,s. At that time thete was not a problem with anyone being an Atheist. It is hard for me to believe it is a problem now. If anything it would be more likely things have moved in the other direction.
Roger
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From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
Date: Mon, 05 May 2008 11:52:03 -0700
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Atheistic Soldier Files Suit
> >From the Army Times -
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> Atheistic soldier files suit
>
> Fort Riley spc. says he is being harassed for lack of faith
> By John Milburn - The Associated Press
> Posted : May 12, 2008
>
> Like hundreds of young men joining the Army in recent years, Spc. Jeremy
> Hall professes a desire to serve his country while it fights terrorism.
>
> But now stationed at Fort Riley, Kan., he is at the center of a legal
> controversy. He has filed a lawsuit alleging he�s being harassed and that
> his constitutional rights have been violated because he doesn�t believe in
> God. The suit names Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
>
> �I�m not in it for cash,� Hall said. �I want no one else to go what I went
> through.�
>
> Known as �the atheist guy,� Hall has been called immoral, a devil
> worshipper and � just as severe to some soldiers � gay, none of which, he
> says, is true. Hall even drove fellow soldiers to church in Iraq and
> paused while they prayed before meals.
>
> �I see a name and rank and United States flag on their shoulder. That�s
> what I believe everyone else should see,� he said.
>
> Hall, 23, was raised in a Protestant family in North Carolina and dropped
> out of school before earning his GED. It wasn�t until after he joined the
> Army that he began questioning religion, eventually deciding he couldn�t
> follow any faith.
>
> But he feared how that would look to other soldiers.
>
> �I was ashamed to say that I was an atheist,� Hall said.
>
> It eventually came out in Iraq in 2007, when he was in a firefight. Hall
> was a gunner on a Humvee, which took several bullets in its protective
> shield. Afterward, Hall said, his commander asked whether he believed in
> God.
>
> �I said, �No, but I believe in Plexiglas,�� Hall said. �I�ve never
> believed I was going to a happy place. You get one life. When I die, I�m
> worm food.�
>
> The issue came to a head when, according to Hall, a superior officer, Maj.
> Freddy J. Welborn, threatened to bring charges against him for trying to
> hold a meeting of atheists in Iraq. Welborn has denied Hall�s allegations.
>
> Hall said he had had enough but feared he wouldn�t get support from
> Welborn�s superiors. He turned to Mikey Weinstein and the Military
> Religious Freedom Foundation.
>
> Weinstein is the foundation�s president and a graduate of the Air Force
> Academy. He had previously sued the Air Force for acts he said illegally
> imposed Christianity on students at the academy, though that case was
> dismissed. He calls Hall a hero.
>
> �The average American doesn�t have enough intestinal fortitude to tell
> someone to shut up if they are talking in a movie theater,� Weinstein
> said. �You know how hard it is to take on your chain of command? This
> isn�t the shift manager at KFC.�
>
> Hall was in Qatar when the lawsuit was filed on Sept. 18 in federal court
> in Kansas City, Kan. Other soldiers learned of it and he feared for his
> own safety. Once, Hall said, a group of soldiers followed him, harassing
> him, but no one did anything to make it stop.
>
> The Army told him it couldn�t protect him and sent him back to Fort Riley.
> He resumed duties with a military police battalion. He believes his
> promotion to sergeant has been blocked because of his lawsuit, but he is a
> team leader responsible for two junior enlisted soldiers.
>
> No one with Fort Riley, the Army or Defense Department would comment about
> Hall or the lawsuit. Each issued statements saying that discrimination
> will not be tolerated regardless of race, religion or gender.
>
> �The Department respects (and supports by its policy) the rights of others
> to their own religious beliefs, including the right to hold no beliefs,�
> said Eileen Lainez, a spokeswoman for the Defense Department.
>
> All three organizations said existing systems help soldiers �address and
> resolve any perceived unfair treatment.�
>
> Lt. Col. David Shurtleff, a Fort Riley chaplain, declined to discuss
> Hall�s case but said chaplains accommodate all faiths as best they can. In
> most cases, religious issues can be worked out without jeopardizing
> military operations.
>
> �When you�re in Afghanistan and an [improvised explosive device] blows up
> a Humvee, they aren�t asking about a wounded soldier�s faith,� Shurtleff
> said.
>
> Hall said he enjoys being a team leader but has been told that having
> faith would make him a better leader.
>
> �I will take care of my soldiers. Nowhere does it say I have to pray with
> my soldiers, but I do have to make sure my soldiers� religious needs are
> met,� he said.
>
> �I hope this doesn�t define me,� Hall said of his lawsuit. �It�s just
> about time somebody said something.�
>
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>
> Pro patria,
>
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
> "Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the
> tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime."
>
> -- Adlai E. Stevenson,
> Jr.
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