[Vision2020] Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die

pkraut at moscow.com pkraut at moscow.com
Sat Mar 29 12:05:34 PDT 2008


This is a tort claim issue and won't be solved until we clamp down. If 
they are going to get sued each time something happenes they have to 
protect themselves some way.





> Sue,
>    
>   Isn't everybody concerned for the human condition from conception to 
death?
>    
>   $1700 for a four block trip in an Ambulance. Criminal behavior? Or is 
it acceptable for
us to just make everyone buy insurance to subsidize this nonsense?
>    
>   Best Regards,
>    
>   Donovan
> 
> Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
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 And just as Courtney:   Donovan is concerned about human mortality from 
conception to
birth.  
>    
>   Sue H
>     ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: keely emerinemix 
>   To: Donovan Arnold ; nickgier at adelphia.net ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
>   Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 7:04 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to 
die
>   
> 
> Goodness, "Donovan," you sound more and more like a Courtney-ite 
Libertarian every day.  
> 
> I'm sorry that you fail to see that while all of us die, the poor among 
us die earlier of
things that generally don't kill the rich among us.  I don't know what's 
more pitiful --
that you can't see that, or that you don't give a damn.
> 
> Keely
> 
> 
> 
> 
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>   Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 20:05:07 -0700
> From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
> To: nickgier at adelphia.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Uninsured adults 25 percent more likely to die
> 
>   Interesting study because I always thought we all had an equal chance 
of dying, 100%.
>    
>    
>   Best Regards,
>    
>   Donovan
> 
> nickgier at adelphia.net wrote:
>   Families USA Study Shows How Many Die Because They Lack Health 
Insurance - 03/26/08,
Workers Independent News
> 
> A first-ever report breaks down the death rate of the uninsured state-
by-state, and finds
that the uninsured are more likely to die sooner than the insured. Jesse 
Russell reports:
> 
> Families USA has finished the first-ever study breaking down state by 
state how many die
every year due to a lack of health insurance. So far the organization has 
completed
studies in 13 of the 50 states, and on Tuesday held a conference call 
regarding the
results in Wisconsin. According to Families USA, 10.7 percent of those 
between the ages of
25 and 64 living in Wisconsin are uninsured and they estimate that 
approximately 250
Wisconsinites died in 2006 due to being uninsured. Dr. Barbara Horner-
Ibler, medical
director at the Bread of Healing Clinic in Milwaukee said that it isn’t 
just a problem
of the uninsured, but also of insurance holders with deductibles that are 
too high:
> 
> [Horner-Ibler]: "We also have the issue now of not just the uninsured, 
but patients who
have high deductible plans who are delaying care because they do not have 
access and the
access that they do have is much too expensive for them to be able to 
afford on their
budget."
> 
> According to the study, which covered 30 years of statistics, uninsured 
adults are more
than three times as likely to delay seeking medical care and are 25 
percent more likely to
die prematurely than adults with health insurance.
> 
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