[Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year oldin Arizona

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sat Mar 22 12:15:02 PDT 2008


This woman didn't come here for the same reasons, Sunil. Most of the 12 million illegal aliens come here to steal from the US, and return to their native country, not to escape and seek asylum from a brutal dictatorship. Every time someone comes here illegally that means someone like the young Cuba woman did, gets denied. She came here the only way she was allowed. She didn't cut in line. She didn't kick someone else off the boat. That is what illegals do. They have more money, more health, and a willingness to break the law, so they think that entitles them over privilege over those that don't have those things. 
   
  You obviously are unaware that some governments are dumping their poor on the US, intentionally, to make us support their citizens. Even assisting them to get US government benefits while here in the US illegally. Cuba, is trying to keep people from escaping, denies them basic human rights.
   
  Best Regards,
   
  Donovan 
   
   
   
   
  
Sunil Ramalingam <sunilramalingam at hotmail.com> wrote:
      .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  padding:0px  }  body.hmmessage  {  FONT-SIZE: 10pt;  FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma  }    Incredible.  Donovan turns that woman into a saint for trying to come here, but denounces illegal immigrants who come here for the same reason.  

Sunil

    
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  Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:58:47 -0700
From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
To: suehovey at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year oldin Arizona

  Remember when the Clintons sent that Cuban boy back, whose mom gave her life trying to give her son a chance at a quality life, like that Sue?
   
  What ever happened to that boy? Think he is happy living under Raul? 
   
  Best,
   
  Donovan

Sue Hovey <suehovey at moscow.com> wrote:
    And there are thousands of babies born in this country each day who are, in fact, citizens, who cannot say the pledge.  When they are old enough we could have a sorting process whereby those who say it get a stamp of citizenship and those who refuse get sent off to one of those 100s countries you mention.  Of course, if they aren't wanted there we could just keep them on some ship and let them float from port to port--sort of modern day Philip Nolans.  (Remember--THE MAN WITHOUT A COUNTRY)  And Geo. Bush wouldn't even have to build a fence to keep them out.  Simple solutions for ..............................
   
  SueH 
    ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Donovan Arnold 
  To: Tom Hansen ; Saundra Lund ; 'Garrett Clevenger' ; 'Vision 2020' 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year oldin Arizona
  

  I think everyone that refuses the pledge should not be allowed citizenship. If you don't like this country, there are 100s of others to choose from. 
   
  Best Regards,
   
  Donovan

Tom Hansen <idahotom at hotmail.com> wrote:
      .ExternalClass .EC_hmmessage P  {padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-top:0px;}  .ExternalClass BODY.EC_hmmessage  {font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma;}    "The Pledge of Allegiance" as acknowledged and honored by most of us (myself included) . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjZj4NY7EM
 
Another Pledge of Allegiance reflective of others among us . . .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGwssbm2V5E
 
You make the call, Moscow.
 
Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho



  
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> Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 12:18:39 -0700
> From: sslund_2007 at verizon.net
> To: garrettmc at verizon.net; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year old in Arizona
> 
> Hi Garrett,
> 
> Don't worry -- you didn't miss anything, I'm sorry to say :-( I really
> liked Roger's forward about Attitude and so was disappointed to read the
> forwarded new Pledge of Allegiance School Prayer :-( It was nothing more
> than yet another Christian refusing to accept that we've got non-Christian
> kids in public schools whose faith is just as important to them as Christian
> views are to Christians.
> 
> 
> Loving My Delete Key,
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> ~ Edmund Burke
> 
> ***** Original material contained herein is Copyright 2008 through life plus
> 70 years, Saundra Lund.  Do not copy, forward, excerpt, or reproduce outside
> the Vision 2020 forum without the express written permission of the
> author.*****
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Garrett Clevenger
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 10:11 AM
> To: Vision 2020
> Subject: [Vision2020] New pledge of alligance written by a 15 year old in
> Arizona
> 
> I couldn't read the attachment sent by Roger, but here
> is the "pledge" I say. Personally, I have a hard time
> pledging allegiance to a flag...
> 
> 
> I pledge allegiance to this Earth
> and the life that makes this place possible
> and to all of creation on which we depend.
> One planet, under the sun,
> indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
> 
> 
> Not nearly as controversial as the standard pledge,
> now is it?;)
> 
> gclev
> 
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