[Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia

Fri Mar 21 10:32:32 PDT 2008

Donovan
I agree that there is  reason for a lot of colored people to be resentful of whites. Not all however respond that way. See the post I sent on attitude. For an example of how different people respond I will relate two experiences I had in the Army. In San Antonio a friend and I went to a movie. It was about half way through the movie before it dawned on us that we were the only two white people there. No one payed us any attention and we were completely at ease. In Pittsburg I got lost and found myself is a colored section of town. I could see the hate in the faces of people on the street. I was vary relieved when I got out of there.
Roger
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From: Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:07:49 -0700
To: lfalen lfalen at turbonet.com,  Ellen Roskovich gussie443 at hotmail.com, Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com,  "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com, keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com,  Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia

> I think it is easy to say that we are all one race, because we all agree. However, we must not ignore, or bury our heads in the sand, not recognizing that some people, including children, have a much harder time growing up and living in this country because they are discriminated against simple for their skin color.
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>   This is why White people are shocked to find out that Black Ministers and Preachers around the country, and Black people in general, are still harboring bad feelings toward Whites. Not just for what they have done in the far past, recent past, but also for the way they are mistreated today.
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>   As I said before, how many rocks can be thrown at your head before you hold a grudge.
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>   Best Regards,
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>   Donovan
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> lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com> wrote:
>   Thanks Ellen
> Were are all people. Most of us are a mix from various racial backgrounds. All of this should be irrelevant. Were are all Americans period. Lets get over the hyphenated prefixes.
> Roger
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> -----Original message-----
> From: Ellen Roskovich gussie443 at hotmail.com
> Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 08:00:04 -0700
> To: Matt Decker mattd2107 at hotmail.com, Donovan Arnolddonovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, "g. crabtree" jampot at roadrunner.com, keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com, Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia
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> > The age of the young women has nothing to do with it. . . it was hurtful and a nasty thing to say about anyone who belongs to the same race WE ALL DO. There are those of us who recognize only ONE race among our kind. Unless you can prove to me that you are from some place beyond the stars, then you are a member of the HUMAN race. So get over it. Obama is one of us. I, for one, am sick and tired of hearing that his mother was "white" and his father "black". Like the rest of us, his mother was "female" and his father a "male". Period.
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> > Ellen A. Roskovich
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> > From: mattd2107 at hotmail.comTo: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com; jampot at roadrunner.com; kjajmix1 at msn.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.comDate: Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:20:28 -0700Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia
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> > D,Actually Imus called the whole Rutgers basketball team a "bunch of nappy headed hoes". Not minors. Indeed hurtful comments. Did Wright make hurtful comments?Take careMatt
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> > Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:16:31 -0700From: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.comTo: jampot at roadrunner.com; kjajmix1 at msn.com; thansen at moscow.com; vision2020 at moscow.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia
> > Gary,
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> > I disagree. Don Imus attacked a high school girl for her hair and called her a hoe for doing nothing but being a good student and a good athlete. 
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> > Wright made political statements about the country, some fact, some opinion. He did not attack people for their individual traits as a person. Nor did he attack minors in high school for their racial attributes.
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> > Best Regards,
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> > Donovan"g. crabtree" wrote:
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> > So how do you square what BHO had to say about Don Imus when he made an ill considered remark in jest about a women's basketball team and the bye he gives his pastor and friend of two decades when he makes statements, represented as fact, that were far worse over a much greater period of time? The only conclusion I can come to is that your candidate for sainthood has a huge double standard when it comes to racism and free speech. Specifically, it's OK for him and his but not so much for the melanin impoverished. You might want to put the halo on hold, your hero has clay clodhoppers.
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> > g
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> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: keely emerinemix 
> > To: Tom Hansen ; vision2020 at moscow.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 1:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia
> > I have never in my life been so proud of someone in public office before. It was, for me, a church experience: Truth spoken prophetically, without adornment, cowardice, or guile. I believe it will be viewed with the historical and social significance of JFK's "ask not" speech. Obama demonstrated a presence that I have not seen in 30 years as a voter, but that well embodied the spirit of Lucretia Mott, Mary McLeod Bethune, Frederick Douglass, Wm. Lloyd Garrison, and George Fox. Saints and heroes, all.OK, Dale -- pile on.Keely> To: vision2020 at moscow.com> From: thansen at moscow.com> Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 02:46:28 +0000> Subject: [Vision2020] Barack Obama's Unity Speech Today in Philadelphia> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN_Su8ywLwk> > Seeya round town, Moscow.> > Tom Hansen> Moscow, Idaho> > "People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in chat-> room forums are neither brave nor clever." > > - Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,> 2007)>!
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