[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Dennis Avery & S. Fred Singer: Climate Science Frauds

[Donovan Arnold]

The real question here is :)
 
Why do they call it the Big Bang, when is wasn't big, but small, like the size of needle head, and that it wasn't a bang, in fact, it had no sound at all, as there were no air molecules to vibrate, nor any ears to feel the vibrations or brain to interpret the vibrations into a sound? 
 
What I also want to know is, does at some point, the Universe began to reserve direction and shrink back to a singularity, then reach a certain point, and expand out again? According to Eisenstein, as I understand it, the major laws of nature that we know, would operate in both an expanding or shrinking Universe, just not a stagnate one. 
 
Best Regards,
 
Donovan

--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Dennis Avery & S. Fred Singer: Climate Science Frauds
To: "Kai Eiselein, Editor" <editor at lataheagle.com>
Cc: "Vision 2020" <Vision2020 at moscow.com>, "Ralph Nielsen" <nielsen at uidaho.edu>
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 6:01 PM

Kai Eiselein, Editor wrote:
> Actually both sides of this debate require suspension of belief.
>   

Not really.  The Big Bang theory doesn't try to answer the question of 
what happened before the singularity or what caused it to explode.  It's 
just there to explain certain observations, such as why the farther away 
something is the greater it's redshift is, which it appears to do really 
well.  For example, the theory predicts certain ratios for the abundance 
of certain elements as a by-product of the known state of the universe 
within the first twenty minutes of it's starting point, which seems to 
fit really closely with what we've observed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang_nucleosynthesis

So there's little suspension of disbelief required.  You just follow the 
evidence, and don't worry about those kinds of questions (what happened 
before the Big Bang?) until you have some kind of framework you can use 
to address them.

A deity, on the other hand, requires a whole bunch of different beliefs 
for which there is no evidence, nor is it predictive in any way.  
Fortunately, belief in that system requires belief with a complete lack 
of evidence (faith) and the assumption that no meaningful predictions 
can occur (God works in mysterious ways), so it all works out in the end.

Paul


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