[Vision2020] Gitmo

[g. crabtree]

Where, exactly, would I find the evidence of the Iraqi women and children 
who died following brutal rapes by our soldiers, or after months of hideous 
torture? I looks to me as though you are playing the same game of who can 
use the most "emotive language to help your argument" you berate Donovan 
for.

g
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chasuk" <chasuk at gmail.com>
To: <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Tom Hansen" <idahotom at hotmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Gitmo


> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 21:47, Donovan Arnold
> <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> No, it wasn't an invasion. It was an attack. Just like Pearl Harbor was 
>> an
>> attack. How many people that attacked Pearl Harbor or planned the attack,
>> got sympathies and access to Civil Courts in the United States?
>
> Peral Harbor was an invasion, clear and simple.  It isn't arguable,
> though you will probably try.
>
>> Andreas, what happened to the rights of all the dead people and their
>> families that were killed on the 9/11? How about those people forced to 
>> jump
>> from a 100 story building to their death because of actions by the
>> terrorists your sympathize with? How about the rights of the people that
>> were alive with their flesh burnt off as they slowly wait for their death
>> after the 9/11 attack, they have no rights? What happened to their 
>> rights,
>> Andreas? I don't see you squawking about the children left without a 
>> mother
>> or fathers because of these terrorists? Do they get to appeal three, six,
>> eight times, the judgment rendered against them by this monsters? You
>> show no outcry for them. You show more concern and empathy for the 170
>> terrorists that killed our people, then for the sick injustice done 
>> against
>> their victims. Why is that exactly, Andreas?
>
> How does all of this emotive language help your argument?  A group of
> terrorists attacked our nation.  We weren't invaded.  We responded by
> invading a nation that was not involved in the attack.  Since that
> time, to use your shameful, morally bankrupt language, hundreds of
> thousands of innocent Iraqis have died.  They have died, women and
> children, by having their flesh seared off, in horrific explosions,
> from starvation, following brutal rapes by our soldiers, or after
> months of hideous torture.  What happened to their rights?  While that
> is an emotive, interesting question, it hasn't nothing to do with the
> actual subject of this conversation.  You show more concern for
> winning an argument than with investigating the truth.  Why is that
> exactly, Donovan?
>
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