[Vision2020] Some thoughts on terrorists and torture.

[Andreas Schou]

Ralph --

Right.

Because even when it's a nation-state committing torture, it's still
all about how bad Christians are.

-- ACS

On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:
> Waterboarding is not a frat party game. It was done by the Spanish
> Inquisition to make innocent people confess to crimes they had
> already been found guilty of. Confession, you know, is a Christian
> sacrament that is necessary to keep you from going to hell when you
> die. However, the crime of heresy was so horrible that the only
> suitable penance, another Christian sacrament, was to be barbecued
> alive in an "auto da fe" (Act of Faith). Then your soul went to heaven.
>
> Ralph Nielsen
>
>
> I believe that we all know by now that waterboarding isn't repeated
> dunking in water -- that's a wild pool party, perhaps, or the "frat
> boy pranks" that Limbaugh speaks of.  Waterboarding is intended to
> bring someone to the brink of drowning while making them believe that
> they are already.
>
> Civilized nations don't do that.  I'd like to believe we are one.
>
> Keely
>
> From: idahotom at hotmail.com
> To: lfalen at turbonet.com; vision2020 at moscow.com
> Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2008 11:49:23 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Some thoughts on terrorists and torture.
>
> Roger falen stated:
>
> "I am not sure what all water boarding consists of. If it is nothing
> more than repeated dunking, I am not sure that it is. I would defer
> to John McCain on this."
>
>
>
> Which John McCain are you deferring to, Roger?  The Roger McCain that
> was against torture or the John McCain that approved of it?
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDmBTmYhZ1E
>
>
>
> Waterboarding demonstration:
>
>
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlLfRCkZuxQ
> Tom Hansen
>
> Moscow, Idaho
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