[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Simple Song of Freedom

Wed Jul 9 21:42:23 PDT 2008

I wouldn't read anything into this survey. I could respond either way depending on what they mean by newspapers being able to print whatever they want without government censorship. 

I don't want on the one hand, the government editing things like the British did to the American colonies before the Revolutionary War approving every article before printed. However, I don't think newspapers should be allowed to print information that could hinder the national security of the country, hurt innocent people, or things that are false and damage a person's reputation. 

Remember your History, in the 1800s, newspapers were run by special interests, and would print all sorts of horrible, untrue things about people that would result in them getting harmed or killed. Blacks, Chinese, the Irish, Jews, Mexicans, and other groups were always hindered by newspapers printing without responsibility or ethics. Even President Jackson wife's was so bashed by the Whig's Party newspapers that the social stress resulted in her death. There are limits on what a newspaper can say where it harms innocent people. 

Newspapers have a social and ethical responsibility in what they report. People believe, and even act on what they read in the paper as though it is factual and they have all the information they need. How many times has media made a mistake that destroyed someones life? Too many to count--I'm sure.  

Best Regards,

Donovan

--- On Tue, 7/8/08, Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: [Bulk] Re: Simple Song of Freedom
To: "Kai Eiselein, Editor" <editor at lataheagle.com>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2008, 7:25 PM

That is a frightening thought. I wonder how they got that way.  Is it 
just the influence of growing up post-9/11 when it happened in your 
formative years?  Is this part of the approved curriculum?

Paul

Kai Eiselein, Editor wrote:
> Here's a sobering thought, speaking of freedoms.
> I just read an editorial by David Solomon in the Pub Aux newspaper put 
> out by the National Newspaper Association, in it he states that a 
> third of high school students believe the 1st Amendment goes too far 
> in the rights it guarantees. About 50 percent of those students 
> believe newspapers should be able to publish freely, without 
> government approval of their stories.  His info came from a study by 
> the Knight Foundation.
> What the hell are these kids learning about the Constitution???
> I won't even get into cases where judges order newspapers not to 
> publish stories or fine and imprison reporters.
>> From the looks of it, the Bill of Rights is going to come under an 
>> even more 
> vicious attack with the next generation.
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Paul Rumelhart" <godshatter at yahoo.com>
> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 7:23 PM
> To: "lfalen" <lfalen at turbonet.com>
> Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re:  Simple Song of Freedom
>
>> Doing a quick tally of my freedoms now compared to before 9/11,
I'm
>> coming up short.  What freedoms did we gain that offset the ones that
>> have been lost?  What did we gain, for example, that offsets the
illegal
>> wiretaps?  Or the the no-fly lists?  Or the signing statements?  Or
the
>> increased power of the Executive Branch?  Or the Patriot Act?  Or the
>> routine use of torture on _suspected_ terrorists?  Or the renditions?
>> What am I forgetting?
>>
>> I'd prefer we got the hell out of Iraq and put our considerable
>> resources into finding Bin Laden and tracking down the actual
terrorists
>> involved in 9/11.  I'd like us to do this while actually staying
within
>> the rule of law, and try keeping the high ground for once.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> lfalen wrote:
>>> Nobody in their right mind wants war, but sometimes you have to 
>>> fight to maintain your freedom.
>>> Roger
>>> -----Original message-----
>>> From: Tom Hansen thansen at moscow.com
>>> Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:01:40 -0700
>>> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Simple Song of Freedom
>>>
>>>
>>>> Written (and performed) in 1969 by Bobby Darin . . .
>>>>
>>>> "Simple Song of Freedom"
>>>> http://www.tomandrodna.com/Songs/Freedom.mp3
>>>>
>>>> "Come and sing a simple song of freedom
>>>> Sing it like you've never sung before
>>>> Let it fill the air
>>>> Tell the people everywhere
>>>> We, the people here, don't want a war
>>>>
>>>> Hey, there, Mister Black Man can you hear me
>>>> I don't want your diamonds or your game
>>>> I just want to be someone who knows to you as me
>>>> And I will bet my life you want the same
>>>>
>>>> Come and sing a simple song of freedom
>>>> Sing it like you've never sung before
>>>> Let it fill the air
>>>> Tell the people everywhere
>>>> We, the people here, don't want a war
>>>>
>>>> Seven hundred million are you listening
>>>> Most of what you read is made of lies
>>>> But speaking one to one, ain't it everybody's sun
>>>> To wake to in the morning when we rise
>>>>
>>>> Come and sing a simple song of freedom
>>>> Sing it like you've never sung before
>>>> Let it fill the air
>>>> Tell the people everywhere
>>>> We, the people here, don't want a war
>>>>
>>>> No doubt some folks enjoy doing battle
>>>> Like presidents, Prime ministers and kings
>>>> So let's all build them shelves
>>>> So they can fight among themselves
>>>> And leave the people be who love to sing
>>>>
>>>> Come and sing a simple song of freedom
>>>> Sing it like you've never sung before
>>>> Let it fill the air
>>>> Tell the people everywhere
>>>> We, the people here, don't want a war
>>>>
>>>> Come and sing a simple song of freedom
>>>> Sing it like you've never sung before
>>>> Speaking one to one, ain't it everybody's
>>>> Ain't it everybody's sun
>>>> To wake to in the morning when we rise
>>>> When we rise"
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Seeya at Friendship Square, Moscow.
>>>>
>>>> Tom Hansen
>>>> Moscow, Idaho
>>>>
>>>> "Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of
emotion but the
>>>> tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime."
>>>>
>>>> -- Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.
>>>>
>>>>
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