[Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Iowa caucus stuff

keely emerinemix kjajmix1 at msn.com
Sat Jan 5 18:47:54 PST 2008




And, from my little seat in the "Amen" corner, YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!!

Thank you, Tom.

Keely


> From: thansen at moscow.com
> To: pkraut at moscow.com; Vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2008 11:34:55 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re:  Iowa caucus stuff
> 
> >From the "Welcoming Idaho Initiative" site at:
> 
> http://www.WelcomingIdaho.org
> 
> "Welcome to Idaho, the Gem state. People come to Idaho for the opportunities
> it offers. Native Americans and immigrants from many nations have called the
> state home. Welcoming Idaho seeks to continue our state´s tradition of
> 'welcoming strangers'. 
> 
> Welcoming Idaho seeks to foster dialogues in our communities about our
> shared values. We want to stay away from the hate-filled messages on our
> airwaves. We do not want fear to rule our lives. We know that Idahoans are
> compassionate and accepting. Welcoming Idaho celebrates our differences and
> our common values."
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "I was a stranger, and you welcomed me."  (Matthew 25:35)
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> 
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of pkraut at moscow.com
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:34 AM
> To: Vision2020 at mail-gw.fsr.net
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] [Bulk] Re: Iowa caucus stuff
> 
> Oh, thank you....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Pat,
> > 
> > You have my permission to live your life any God-damned way you want to.
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > pkraut at moscow.com wrote:
> > > I soooo always apprciate someone who is not a Christian telling me 
> how I 
> > > should live it!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >   
> > >> What if he was destitute and unable to provide for his family, and 
> > >>     
> > > broke 
> > >   
> > >> into your house because your son was hiring him under the table to 
> do 
> > >> his chores for him?
> > >>
> > >> I think the un-Christian thing about this (from my admittedly 
> > >> non-Christian perspective) is viewing these people as hardened 
> > >>     
> > > criminals 
> > >   
> > >> intent on taking our jobs away from us instead of people stuck 
> between 
> > >>     
> > > a 
> > >   
> > >> rock and a hard place who have to find some way for their family to 
> > >>     
> > > survive.
> > >   
> > >> I'm no Bible scholar, but I do remember a lot of talk about poverty 
> and 
> > >> helping out your fellow man.
> > >>
> > >> Paul
> > >>
> > >> g. crabtree wrote:
> > >>     
> > >>> It seems to me that your notion of the Gospel with regard to 
> illegal 
> > >>> aliens is flawed. Do you believe that should a thief break into 
> your 
> > >>> home it's your obligation to give him a hot meal and pay to have 
> the 
> > >>> hand he cut breaking your window stitched up? Maybe some dental 
> care 
> > >>> for him and his family while he's there? Heck as long as he's 
> sitting 
> > >>> on your sofa why not arrange for a little in state tuition at the 
> > >>> local diploma mill and offer to pay expenses not covered by grants. 
> > >>>       
> > > By 
> > >   
> > >>> my reckoning it's not Christian charity if my compassion is 
> forcibly 
> > >>> extracted at the point of a gun, be it in the form of increased 
> taxes 
> > >>> by the government or an actual felon with a firearm. Charity should 
> > >>>       
> > > be 
> > >   
> > >>> an individual thing from the heart. Also, I'm no biblical scholar 
> but 
> > >>> I'm fairly sure that the Bible does not preclude a sovereign 
> country 
> > >>> having secure borders.
> > >>>  
> > >>> g
> 
> 
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