[Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow

[Bill London]

The idea that Moscow will have some control of the Hawkins mall is illusory.
The deal, as I understand it, only sets maximum usage that Hawkins would 
have targeted anyway-- and far worse, requires Moscow water to be sold at 
same rate as city customers.
The Hawkins deal was a give-away.
BL




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
To: <london at moscow.com>; <rhayes at turbonet.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>; 
"Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow


> I'm not sure what all the whining is about. What is the benefit of the 
> City of Moscow forking out thousands of dollars to fight a losing battle 
> with Hawkins only to have them acquire a water right that gives Moscow 
> absolutely no control or potential revenue? Without the signing of this 
> agreement Hawkins would have been able to drill a well and draw that water 
> out of the same aquifer we get ours out of without the City  having any 
> say.  This way, we have some control since we are the provider.  Not only 
> that, we should be able to charge them for services at a price 
> significantly higher than what a Moscow business would be paying. The 
> silly assertion that "we Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman 
> County" is without merit. Whitman county will be financing the 
> infrastructure improvements with 9.1 million dollars worth of bonds and 
> fire protection will come via a new rural fire station provided by 
> Hawkins. Instead of grumbling about recalls I think we should be saying 
> thanks guys, job well done!
>
> g
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To: <london at moscow.com>; <rhayes at turbonet.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow
>
>
>> Visionaires -
>>
>> Crank up your speakers and watch/listen to Wayne Krauss . . .
>>
>> "Behind Closed Doors"
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uziWdh9MfjI
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow, Idaho
>>> R-
>>> I agree with your concern and your indignation.
>>> I thought these GMA council candidates were supposed to bring "common
>> sense"
>>> to Moscow.
>>> Now we Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County.
>>> Disgusting
>>> BL
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "roger hayes" <rhayes at turbonet.com>
>>> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:25 AM
>>> Subject: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow
>>>
>>>
>>> > Dear Moscow taxpayers and business owners,
>>> >
>>> > It appears the city of Moscow will provide water, sewer, and most
>>> > likely police and fire services to the proposed Hawkins development
>>> > which is slated to be built just across the border in Washington. Who
>>> > will benefit by this? Hawkins, regional developers and Whitman county.
>>> > The losers will be Moscow businesses and Moscow taxpayers.
>>> > If this plan comes to fruition, we will be exporting our tax dollars 
>>> > to
>>> > Whitman county, shipping the profits of local business to another
>>> > state, while reducing Moscow's tax base, AND increasing the demand on
>>> > our city's infrastructure. How much money will Hawkins agree to pay
>>> > Moscow to mitigate the destructive consequences this megamall will 
>>> > have
>>> > on our city?
>>> > With the exception of Tom Lamar, the city council voted against the
>>> > best interests of our city and its citizens. Walter Steed said he 
>>> > could
>>> > not comment on the negotiations because they were held in "secret." 
>>> > Why
>>> > the secrecy? Steed also said "this will not make some people happy."
>>> > Well, when you make a deal which is destructive to the people who
>>> > elected you, it is bound to make them unhappy.
>>> > We need to consider a RECALL!
>>> >
>>> > Roger Hayes
>>> > Moscow!
>>> >
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>>
>> "People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in 
>> chat-
>> room forums are neither brave nor clever."
>>
>> - Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,
>> 2007)
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