[Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow

[g. crabtree]

I admit that I am less than wildly enthusiastic about the perceived lack of 
transparency but I am satisfied with the outcome. Some discussions between 
public and private entities must, by necessity, be behind closed doors. Now 
that I've answered your question how about returning the favor. What is it 
that you imagine happened of a nefarious nature that makes the closed 
meeting suspect? When closed executive sessions can and can not occur is 
governed by Idaho code. Is it your contention that the discussions were 
illegal? Just because Hawkins asked for a confidentiality agreement, should 
our council have refused to discuss matters of vital regional interest with 
them? Would refusing to discuss these matters have been in the best interest 
of the city and its residents?

g
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
To: <jampot at roadrunner.com>; <london at moscow.com>; <rhayes at turbonet.com>; 
<vision2020 at moscow.com>; <thansen at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow


> And if this had happened a year ago with Councilors Ament and Pall
> returning from Spokane explaining that they were forced to sign a non-
> disclosure statement prior reaching this signed agreement, your comments
> would be . . . ?
>
> Tom Hanen
> Moscow, Idaho
>
>> I'm not sure what all the whining is about. What is the benefit of the
> City
>> of Moscow forking out thousands of dollars to fight a losing battle with
>> Hawkins only to have them acquire a water right that gives Moscow
> absolutely
>> no control or potential revenue? Without the signing of this agreement
>> Hawkins would have been able to drill a well and draw that water out of
> the
>> same aquifer we get ours out of without the City  having any say.  This
> way,
>> we have some control since we are the provider.  Not only that, we
> should be
>> able to charge them for services at a price significantly higher than
> what a
>> Moscow business would be paying. The silly assertion that "we Moscow
>> taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County" is without merit.
> Whitman
>> county will be financing the infrastructure improvements with 9.1
> million
>> dollars worth of bonds and fire protection will come via a new rural
> fire
>> station provided by Hawkins. Instead of grumbling about recalls I think
> we
>> should be saying thanks guys, job well done!
>>
>> g> > Moscow, Idaho
>> >> R-
>> >> I agree with your concern and your indignation.
>> >> I thought these GMA council candidates were supposed to bring "common
>> > sense"
>> >> to Moscow.
>> >> Now we Moscow taxpayers are financing sprawl in Whitman County.
>> >> Disgusting
>> >> BL
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: "roger hayes" <rhayes at turbonet.com>
>> >> To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:25 AM
>> >> Subject: [Vision2020] Hawkins Mall and Moscow
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Dear Moscow taxpayers and business owners,
>> >> >
>> >> > It appears the city of Moscow will provide water, sewer, and most
>> >> > likely police and fire services to the proposed Hawkins development
>> >> > which is slated to be built just across the border in Washington.
> Who
>> >> > will benefit by this? Hawkins, regional developers and Whitman
> county.
>> >> > The losers will be Moscow businesses and Moscow taxpayers.
>> >> > If this plan comes to fruition, we will be exporting our tax
> dollars to
>> >> > Whitman county, shipping the profits of local business to another
>> >> > state, while reducing Moscow's tax base, AND increasing the demand
> on
>> >> > our city's infrastructure. How much money will Hawkins agree to pay
>> >> > Moscow to mitigate the destructive consequences this megamall will
> have
>> >> > on our city?
>> >> > With the exception of Tom Lamar, the city council voted against the
>> >> > best interests of our city and its citizens. Walter Steed said he
> could
>> >> > not comment on the negotiations because they were held in "secret."
> Why
>> >> > the secrecy? Steed also said "this will not make some people happy."
>> >> > Well, when you make a deal which is destructive to the people who
>> >> > elected you, it is bound to make them unhappy.
>> >> > We need to consider a RECALL!
>> >> >
>> >> > Roger Hayes
>> >> > Moscow!
>> >> >
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>> > - Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,
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> - Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21,
> 2007)
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