[Vision2020] Fragments of our Lord

[Tom Hansen]

My guess is that Nazism is NOT a religion, but is/was a politcial party 
(the National Socialist Party).

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Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho


> Comparing Catholics to Nazis is a bit too far in my book. And apart  
> from the over the top rhetoric there is not much argument or evidence  
> here. Enjoy the New Year! Joe
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Dec 31, 2008, at 11:22 AM, Chasuk <chasuk at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 10:00, Joseph Campbell <josephc at wsu.edu>  
> > wrote:
> >
> >> . . . if I'm going to comment on No Weatherman's ridiculous, racist  
> >> rants
> >> against Muslims and Africans, then I should be willing to say the  
> >> same
> >> against equally ridiculous claims about Christian doctrines, or  
> >> Chas's even
> >> more ridiculous claim that religion is "a transitional stage  
> >> between the
> >> childhood and the adult phases of human development." A view where  
> >> one's
> >> opponents — and over half the population of the world — come off 
> >>  as
> >> infantile idiots is a little too convenient and certainly worthy of
> >> commentary. Not that I think that I've convinced you or Chas of  
> >> anything,
> >> mind you!
> >
> > Marxism is a religious belief.  Nazism is a religious belief.  I'm not
> > talking about in the sacred sense, but in the sense that they incite
> > in their followers a fervor which they use to justify appalling
> > behavior.  If your belief -- frequently an "ism" -- becomes so
> > important to you that you consider it inviolable, then it is a
> > religious belief.
> >
> > Maoism, Wahhabism, Fundamentalist Christianity.  Look at their  
> > rotten fruits.
> >
> > If you can believe in something as transparently idiotic as
> > transubstantiation, then you have thrown logic (and your own pragmatic
> > experience) out the window.
> >
> > I don't believe that the doctrine of transubstantiation itself is
> > dangerous, but that those who hold to it often are, given the wrong
> > circumstances.
> >
> > When you are able to subsume logic to an "ism," then you can justify
> > slaughtering tourists in Mumbai, blowing up children in Gaza, in
> > mutilating the genitals of little girls in Egypt and Cameroon, in
> > bombing abortion clinics, or you can become a member of the Khmer
> > Rouge, or crash planes into skyscrapers.
> >
> > Maybe religion isn't a transitional stage between the childhood and
> > the adult phases of human development, but I certainly hope that it
> > is, because as the destructive capabilities of the common person
> > continue to increase, the proponents of "isms" scare me more every
> > day.
> >
> > Chas
> 
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