[Vision2020] Donovan, Canadians ARE Americans!

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 21 14:57:09 PST 2008


Yes, Ellen, they did fight, very heroically too! Did I say otherwise?

1.1 million Canadians served in the War staring in 1939. About 45,000 made the ultimate sacrifice. 

Best Regards,

Donovan




--- On Sun, 12/21/08, Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com> wrote:

> From: Ellen Roskovich <gussie443 at hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Donovan, Canadians ARE Americans!
> To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com, nielsen at uidaho.edu
> Cc: tiedye at turbonet.com
> Date: Sunday, December 21, 2008, 2:35 PM
> Donovan!  Shame on you.  The Canadians have always been our
> allies.....they fought in those wars and DIED.....U.S
> soldiers and Canadian side by side.
>  
> I think I might have more to say......but after I count to
> 100....counting to 10 sure as hell isn't going to do it.
>  
>  
> Ellen A. Roskovich
>  
>  
> > Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 14:05:24 -0800> From:
> donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> To: Vision2020 at moscow.com;
> nielsen at uidaho.edu> CC: tiedye at turbonet.com> Subject:
> Re: [Vision2020] Donovan, Canadians ARE Americans!> >
> Ralph,> > If you hate the US so much, and Canada is so
> perfect, why don't you leave us go there?> > When
> I was a kid, I use to work hard doing chores to save money
> for summer fun. I would buy stuff with my hard earned money,
> and because I was a kid, the clerks would slip me Canadian
> coins with my change only to later find out I couldn't
> buy anything with it. Your government stole money from an
> eight year old kid, by printing worthless money. That was my
> thinking as a child.> > I grew out of my childish
> thinking and have grown to appreciate the things that Canada
> has to offer the world, while realizing no people or country
> is entirely good. > > You obviously haven't grown
> past that childish stage. You should think about that while
> you enjoy everything the USA brought you;> > Light
> Bulb> Electricity> Computers> Airplanes>
> Cars> The Internet> Microwave> Television>
> Freedom from Germany, Twice.> > Best Regards,> >
> Donovan> > > > > > --- On Sun, 12/21/08,
> Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu> wrote:> >
> > From: Ralph Nielsen <nielsen at uidaho.edu>> >
> Subject: [Vision2020] Donovan, Canadians ARE Americans!>
> > To: "vision 2020"
> <Vision2020 at moscow.com>> > Cc: "Donovan
> Arnold" <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>,
> "Dave" <tiedye at turbonet.com>> > Date:
> Sunday, December 21, 2008, 1:24 PM> > When I was in
> Gr. 5 in the small one-room school up the road> > in
> Edgewater BC a few years ago we had to learn the names,>
> > capitals and principal cities, and principal products
> or> > industries of all 48 states to the south of
> us.> > > > Later, when I worked in the tourist
> business in Radium Hot> > Springs, I found to my
> amazement and disgust that many> > Americans had no
> idea how many provinces there are in> > Canada, or
> even what province they were in. Some thought we> >
> used English pounds, shillings and pence, some thought
> we> > all spoke French. Some refused to take Canadian
> $2 bills,> > which were very popular in Canada. To
> them we would explain> > that Canadian $2 bills were
> lucky. In fact, twice as lucky> > as $1 bills.>
> > > > Part of the trouble, of course, is that the
> USA is not a> > distinctive name. Some had suggested
> "Columbia,"> > which was probably how
> British Columbia got its name. So> > saying
> "America" for the USA is not intentionally>
> > belittling any other country in the American
> hemisphere. We> > simply don't have a choice, do
> we?> > > > Ralph> > > > > >
> This goes along with issue I had about the High School:
> The> > U.S. History> > textbook is wrongfully
> titled "American History",> > but I checked,
> it has> > nothing in it about most of America, it only
> focuses on one> > set of fifty> > states, one of
> which isn't even IN America.> > > > I wonder
> if Donovan is a product of MHS, where the State> >
> mandated> > "Social Studies" curriculum
> consists of: U.S.> > History I, U.S. History> >
> II, and U.S. Government. Does anyone else notice what is>
> > missing in> > this picture? Like, maybe, the rest
> of the world?> > > > Perhaps this is why Donovan
> and many others believe that> > the United> >
> States owns the world.> > > > It comes from
> confusing patriotism with nationalism.> > > >
> Personally I don't trust any "ism".> >
> > > Dave> > > > > > Ellen Roskovich
> wrote:> > > *Well, Donovan, you have gone and done
> it.....forced> > me to hop up on> > > my
> soapbox and give you what for in the name of all my> >
> Canadian> > > friends. Trust me.....they get very
> annoyed with> > their neighbors to> > > the
> south when we call them Canadians and refer to> >
> ourselves as> > > "Americans".....as if
> we owned the entire> > North American continent>
> > > instead of sharing it.*> > > **> >
> > *I rather like the notion that we have to> >
> share.....and that there's> > > another little
> bridge of land to the south with> >
> Mexico.....also> > > Americans....and if we follow
> that Central American> > bridge, we end up> >
> > in South America. Kind of like going from one> >
> neighborhood to another. *> > > **> > >
> *Stay warm, Moscow.*> > > **> > > *Ellen
> A. Roskovich*> > > **> > > **> >
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