[Vision2020] Credibility: Roger's and Mine

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Nick
You state that legal and religious traditions have held that a fetus is not a person until late in pregnancy. I dont think that Catholics and Evangelicals would agree with that.  By saying late in pregnancy you still have not set an exact demarcation point. This  can be somewhat of a sliding scale.  For myself I do not know what the correct answer is. I may be somewhat in agreement with Obama on that narrow point. At least the Catholics and Evangelicals have a clear demarcation point.
You still run the risk of killing the innocent and sparing the guilty. If anybody deserves the death penalty it is Duncan.
On a related issue why would California what him extradited to try him there. He has already been sentenced to death, they should save the expense. The same holds for the guy who killed a Moscow student, some one in Boise and in Nevada.
Boise can keep him. Latah does not need the expense.
Roger
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From: nickgier at adelphia.net
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:39:44 -0700
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: [Vision2020] Credibility: Roger's and Mine

> Hi Roger:
> 
> I challenged your credibility on your unsubstantiated claim that a President Obama will nationalize our oil.  You admit that you cannot produce any evidence to prove that claim.
> 
> You now challenge my consistency on abortion and capital punishment.  I have posted at great length on both of these issues, and I have answered, on several occasions, the charge of inconsistency. There is none.
> 
> The moral and legal issues in abortion rest on the status of the fetus as a person.  I have demonstrated that our moral, legal, and religious traditions have held that the fetus is not a person until late in pregnancy.  See once again my full argument at www.class.uidaho.edu/ngier/abortion.htm.  If the conservative wants to uphold tradition, then my position is the conservative one.
> 
> With regard to capital punishment, there is simply no dispute that the those sentenced to death are moral and legal persons.  As such the state has not right to take their lives.
> 
> Nick
> 
> Nick
> 
> We will have to wait and see. The John Burch Society was right about 80% of the time. The other 20% was so outlandish that it did destroy their credibility. You are right a good deal of the time also. Your inconsistency on being against the death penalty in all cases and being in favor of virtually all abortion also affects your credibility. How can you be in favor of saving the life of a vicious killer and and the same time support  killing someone who is innocent. If you would confine your support for abortion to those cases that would save the life of the mother, you would at least be consistent.
> Roger
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