[Vision2020] Freedom of the Press in Denver..NOT!!!

jeanlivingston jeanlivingston at turbonet.com
Thu Aug 28 08:39:40 PDT 2008


In my opinion, Kai is right to be concerned.  We all should be.


True, there may be more to this incident than has been reported,
Donovan, as there often is, but at first blush it appears to be an
arrest of a journalist/photographer while observing and photographing
on a sidewalk outside a hotel.  Normally, sidewalks are not private,
they are public.  It could be that this was inside a hotel compound
and private, but it hasn't been described that way.  


The police state mentality oppressing the free press is very
concerning, if the journalists were truly on a public right of way.  


The over-reaching of the police, the suppression of first amendment
rights, and the co-opting of our corporate communications giants for
illegal searches, are all examples of the slippery slope that comes
with giving up some of our our collective, hard fought, civil
liberties to fight terrorism.  We over-reacted to the terrorist
threat at the cost of our liberty.We began to eviscerate our civil
liberties with the passage of the Patriot Act, which then Congressman
Butch Otter rightly voted against.


In this bullying of the press at the Democratic convention, we
see just another assault on our common freedoms, assuming of course
that the incident occurred as the journalists describe it.  The
politicians may prefer to hide their associations with lobbyists, but
if they walk out on a public sidewalk in plain view, the journalists
have every right to photograph and report their comings and goings
together.


Bruce Livingston



-----Original message-----
From: Kai Eiselein fotopro63 at hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:29:16 -0700
To: donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Freedom of the Press in Denver..NOT!!!

> 
> Donovan, this is just the latest incident of a problem that has been
increasing. In many instances, police cite"homeland security" as the
reason for their actions.
> If you wish, I can list several instances of not just the press, but
members of the public who have been harrassed, and/or detained for
engaging in activities protected by the Constitution.
> BTW, Kia is the brand name of a car. ;)
> 
> 
> 
> Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 00:02:57 -0700From:
donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.comSubject: Re: [Vision2020] Freedom of the
Press in Denver..NOT!!!To: vision2020 at moscow.com;
fotopro63 at hotmail.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kia,
> 
> So one police officer arresting one reporter in Denver constitutes
an end to freedom of speech?
> 
> We weren't there, so we don't know the entire circumstances, and
considering this is the only incident on record--I imagine it isn't
representative of what is going in Denver. 
> 
> Best Regards,
> 
> Donovan--- On Wed, 8/27/08,Kai Eiselein wrote:
> From: Kai Eiselein Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Freedom of the Press in
Denver..NOT!!!To: vision2020 at moscow.comDate: Wednesday, August 27,
2008, 8:00 PM
> 
> 
> So the whole city of Denver is private property while the convention
is in town, Donovan?The reporter was on a public sidewalk, was pushed
into and across the street by a cop before being "arrested".The
cameraman was told to stop filming while the reporter was being
"arrested". THAT is an unawful order.Thankfully he/she didn't stop
recording.With very few exceptions a photographer may shoot anything
that is in view of public property, people, buildings, cars...even the
police. 
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