[Vision2020] Say What? Discrimination

J Ford privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Mon Sep 17 06:34:39 PDT 2007

The homes that have "inclusion" people are NOT regarded as boarding homes....they are a half-way home that is registered as a business.  The boarding homes that the kirkers have as well some other people, are NOT registered, are NOT paying any kind of sales taxes or property taxes for a business and tend (in some instances) to OVER populate the home - in other words, they have three to four people to a bedroom, with two to three bedrooms being used for such.  This increases the burden on the home as well as the neighborhood without the proper parking and a huge increase in the foot traffic to and from the home.

J  :]

Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 23:39:39 -0700
From: the_ivies3 at yahoo.com
To: vision2020 at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Say What? Discrimination

Doesn't it include a CUP process?  As I understand it, and I could be wrong, lowering the number brings Moscow more in-line with the codified number that the majority of cities our size use.  

Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com> wrote:    "These three people [(Pall, Ament and Lamar)] feel that counting unrelated people in a
dwelling will solve noise and parking problems in residential
neighborhoods."     Mr. Busch is correct on this point. I think counting the number of unrelated people is discriminatory. When I worked at Inclusion North there were often several people with disabilities living in one home because they cannot afford their own place on a $660 a month SSI check, especially in a city like Moscow. There are many poor, disabled, and elderly people that MUST live together
 in one dwelling for economic survival. This code is a raw deal for those that are in need of affordable housing. Another example of elitist socialists trying to make everyone live like them regardless of their financial situations. The City Council members are saying, "Let them eat cake", or in this case, let them live in an apartment with only two people if they can only afford to live in an apartment with four others.      And on the other side of the coin, a family of two adults with two teenagers can be very noisy and make life for their neighbors intolerable. Why not limit how many teenagers can live in one household, or how many babies a single mom can have? It would be just as unfair.      An unjust law, clearly invented by people living in nice homes with secure incomes. I hope the newly elected city council will reverse this piece of discrimination.     
 If Moscow would allow for the building of affordable housing for what people actually earn in Moscow we would not have 5 students or 5 people on SSI living in one housing unit. And BTW, Moscow has more people per housing unit then any other city in the state according the BLS.      Best,     Donovan

Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:  In a letter to the editor of the Lewiston Tribune, published today
(September 16, 2007), Steve Busch suggests that "enforcing existing law
[Moscow Zoning Code] is all that is necessary."


Comments made in a letter to the editor authored by local attorney Jack
Porter and published in the Sept. 12 Lewiston Tribune cannot be ignored. On
Sept. 4,
 the current city council voted 3-2 to change Moscow's city code in
an attempt to deal with a real problem. 

Unfortunately, the majority (Pall, Ament and Lamar) threw the baby out with
the bath water. These three people feel that counting unrelated people in a
dwelling will solve noise and parking problems in residential neighborhoods.

The Greater Moscow Alliance feel enforcing existing law is all that is
necessary. We said so in a letter presented to the council on Sept. 10 (to
see a copy visit www.greatermoscow.org). Mr. Porter thinks this is evidence
the GMA is insensitive to Moscow citizens' cherished life style. Nothing
could be further from the truth. GMA is working hard to educate the public
about issues and candidates. 

I urge all Moscow voters to ask candidates for city council tough questions.
Listen carefully to the answers and vote your conscience.

Steve Busch
Greater Moscow


Questions, Mr. Busch: How often, and how selective, should enforcement of
zoning codes be enforced? Instead of amending the current code ad nauseam
and allowing for conditional use permits every time somebody violates
"existing law", should we draw the proverbial line in the sand, much like
the Raven, strongly proclaim "Ne'er more", and further demand that those
entities that are currently in violation of the zoning code move elsewhere?

Reminder, folks!

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

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