[Vision2020] Under-fire senator alleges entrapment

Mon Sep 3 00:37:36 PDT 2007

Classic Tom!  True to form, you blow a gasket, immediately send off a ranting reply, and then within 5 minutes of your first reply you send a follow up with "And ANOTHER THING...".  Thanks for proving to everyone on this list - except yourself - that you really don't know the value of keeping your powder dry.  It's just too funny.  And you call this observation immature.

And, of course, we all know the high level of maturity you demonstrate on this list with your name calling of "No Clue", "His Whineyness", and "Comb-Over".

My apologies to the rest of the v2020ers.  I know you all enjoy you these spats about as much you all enjoy reading all those posts from Tom followed up 3 minutes later with the same post along with the subject heading modified as "CORRECTED".  That said, I'll return my focus to the discussions at hand.

-Scott

----- Original Message ----
From: Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com>
To: Scott Dredge <sdredge at yahoo.com>; viz <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 7:16:31 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Under-fire senator alleges entrapment

And ANOTHER THING, Mr. Dredge -

I do NOT consider myself to be a Democrat.  I am a LIBERAL INDEPENDENT.
There IS a difference.

Seeya round town, Moscow.

Tom Hansen
Moscow, Idaho

"People who ridicule others while hiding behind anonymous monikers in
chat-room forums are neither brave nor clever."

- Latah County Sheriff Wayne Rausch (August 21, 2007) \

-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
On Behalf Of Scott Dredge
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 6:05 PM
To: viz
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Under-fire senator alleges entrapment

Paul,

I don't like to see Larry Craig demonized either and the vicious attacks -
aside from the late night comedians - are only coming from his own party
members.  There is not a single Democrat other than Tom Hansen (who doesn't
know the value of keeping his powder dry) calling for Craig's resignation.
The Republicans sure implode easily.

-Scott

----- Original Message ----
From: Paul Rumelhart <godshatter at yahoo.com>
To: david sarff <davesway at hotmail.com>
Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com; joekc at adelphia.net
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 5:47:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Under-fire senator alleges entrapment

It appears that his biggest concern was that he wouldn't have to be 
called in to court.  I'm guessing that he wanted to sweep it under the 
rug so that his family didn't know and so that the media might not 
notice.  He appears to have failed utterly at that.

I'm by no means a supporter of his politics.  I, too, find it 
distressing that he voted for the no bid contract with Halliburton.  I 
just don't like to see this guy demonized over something that was (imho) 
very vague and could easily be created out of whole cloth in the mind of 
a police officer who was maybe too zealous in his attempts to catch a 
perpetrator.

Paul

david sarff wrote:
>
> If he is innocent and he can't represent himself better than he did 
> and he's supposed represent our state and the country, he's got a 
> credibility problem. If he's guilty, he's got a credibility problem.
> Frankly, I don't think he's gay as much as he's in love with himself 
> and any-body that will service his pompous self is likely fair game. 
> If this is true and he is supposed to represent others, including his 
> wife...bad credibility.
> I do think that the dogs of his own party will be his actual undoing. 
> If he's perceived as a closet gay
> , then he may perceived as a closet liberal. That could be worse.
> This guy approved of the no bid contract for Halliburton, among a lot 
> of other things, that action pissed me off more than any of the recent 
> stuff.
> Dave
>
>
>
>> You know, I'd feel a lot better about this if he was actually caught
>> having sex in the restroom, or caught on tape giving money for sex, or
>> something else more-or-less unambiguous.
>>
>> There might be reasons why you would stand outside the door of someone's
>> stall, especially if you were waiting for one to free up.  The officer
>> might have imagined that he was trying to peer in at him, when instead
>> he was lost in thought.  You might put your roller bag in front of the
>> stall door not to attempt to block what you want to do from sight, but
>> because there is no other fricking place to put it where you can still
>> see it.  You might tap your damn foot out of simple boredom.  You might
>> not even be aware you are doing it.  You might accidentally touch the
>> foot of the person in the stall next to you, especially if you are a
>> larger guy that needs to shed a few pounds.  You might reach under the
>> partition for toilet paper, or you might have been doing something with
>> your bags that are sitting in front of you and the gesture was 
>> misconstrued.
>>
>> I do realize that he pled guilty to their charge, but when you are
>> hoping that it might blow over - and when you are apparently trying to
>> keep it from your family as well as the media, you might plead guilty to
>> try to make it go away.
>>
>> I have no idea if he was really guilty or not, but I think this thing
>> has snowballed out of control.  I don't particularly agree with this
>> guy's politics, and I'm certainly no real supporter of his, but I think
>> he's getting the short end of the stick.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> Joe Campbell wrote:
>> > That was the headline on the CNN website. I remember Roy Schieder 
>> talking about
>> > the seven stages of accepting death (or something like that) in 
>> "All that Jazz." One
>> > stage was denial. Craig appears to be going through the seven 
>> stages of denial.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Joe Campbell
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