[Vision2020] The BLog and Political Contributions

Tom Ivie the_ivies3 at yahoo.com
Sun Oct 28 14:04:01 PDT 2007


Pat,
  What do you think about the Palouse Rentals and Construction contribution?  What happens if a PAC or campaign accepts an illegal contribution?  I don't know what the SOS does, but the candidate or PAC should give the money back -in my opinion. Perhaps it is operating as a DBA and no longer incorporated, maybe that's legal -I don't know.  

pkraut at moscow.com wrote:
  I agree with you 100%!


> That's why it is called a "public" record and a financial "disclosure". 
Anyone can have
access to it and anyone can see who has contributed. Who cares who 
contributes to any
campaign as long as it was done within legal parameters. One side might 
not like that so
and so gave the other side money while that side gets money from someone 
the other side
doesn't like. Who cares. Every side to every campaign has it's list of 
supporters. I
bet no matter what side you look at, there would be someone who donates to 
one campaign
that doesn't to another campaign. Even if they do, maybe they don't 
donate at the same
rate. That is, maybe they give one candidate $25 but give another one $50 -
so what. As
long as it is done legally, it doesn't really matter. The reason there 
are "sides" is
because of differences in ideology and vision -wrong or right, it is all a 
matter of
perspective. What it comes down to is this...every candidate has to raise 
money -period. 
As long as they are
> fine with who gave it and it is legal - who cares. Some candidates can 
raise more money
than others -some need to (especially if they don't have the benefit of a 
PAC -sorry, my
little jab). It all depends on the race and the candidates. (but even if 
a candidate has
the benefit of a PAC they may not need to raise huge bucks -just to be 
fair. To be
fair-the only disclosure I have seen is the GMA one posted here. It's good 
for them that
someone gave $50, $100, $500, and even $1,000. I think it is more 
impressive though when
a candidate can raise the money on their own. I am actually more 
impressed when they do
raise a lot and from the people. It tells me that real people want to see 
them elected. 
That last sentence is not a jab at any one side because I haven't seen any 
of their
disclosures, but my honest feelings on the matter. Get over it and worry 
about your own
campaign -no matter who you are. Please send your checks to:...
> 
> Tom Hansen wrote: >From the BLog at:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/yt2lmu (and attached as PDF file)
> 
> Dale Courtney stated:
> 
> "Jimmy isn't publishing the names. But I will be. 
> 
> It's public record. And it's important that my readers realize who is
> supporting the candidates. 
> 
> Standby."
> 
> Very good, Dale.
> 
> Now perhaps you can also explain the $1,000 contribution made to GMA's
> Political Action Committee (on October 12, 2007) by "Palouse Rental and
> Construction", a company that was administratively dissolved by the Idaho
> Secretary of State's office for failure to file annual reports since 
2004.
> 
> Perhaps we should also discuss this defunct company's president John 
Ficc in
> a rather interesting thread I call "Where are They Now?"
> 
> Moscow anxiously awaits your response.
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> 
> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kris Freitag [mailto:kfreitag at roadrunner.com] 
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 4:39 PM
> To: 'Tom Hansen'; 'Mark Solomon'; 'Bill London'; 'v2020'
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] More GMA PAC Financial Disclosure Report
> 
> A quick search of John Ficca picked up the following at
> http://www.lni.wa.gov/news/2000/pr000214a.asp 
> 
> " TUMWATER - An Idaho employer must pay more than $95,000 in unpaid 
wages to
> 12 current and former employees in the Spokane area according to a
> settlement agreement announced today by the Department of Labor and
> Industries.
> 
> John Ficca, of Moscow, Idaho, owner of Art's Electric, Inc., also has 
been
> permanently prohibited from bidding on or performing work on future 
public
> works projects in Washington. Ficca also does business as Palouse Country
> Electric and U Cities Contracting.
> 
> The permanent "debarment" - the first of its kind in an L&I prevailing 
wage
> case - resulted from charges that Ficca failed to pay his employees the
> correct rate of prevailing wage for the work they performed on six 
different
> public works projects for Washington State University and for the City of
> Pullman from 1995 through 1997."
> 
> Hmmm.
> 
> Kris Freitag
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-
bounces at moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Tom Hansen
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 3:47 PM
> To: 'Mark Solomon'; 'Bill London'; 'v2020'
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] More GMA PAC Financial Disclosure Report
> 
> Mark Solomon stated:
> 
> "As I'm always interested in who is contributing big $$ in elections, I
> looked it up and saw Palouse Rentals and Construction had donated $1000 
to
> GMA. Maybe I'm just out of the loop, but I did not know that name. A 
quick
> search on the Sec'y of State website gives up John Ficca as the 
president of
> the corporation, which, by the way, has been administratively dissolved 
by
> the Sec'y of State for failure to file annual reports since 2004."
> 
> It would be most interesting to see on what account the contribution 
check
> (or automated funds transfer) was submitted against.
> 
> If the contribution was honestly submitted by the company reflected in 
the
> Financial Disclosure Report, I am guessing that the Idaho Secretary of 
state
> would be interested in the matter.
> 
> If the contribution was fraudulently submitted by a defunct company, I am
> just as certain that the people of Moscow would be most interested in the
> names of the people making such a contribution.
> 
> Things that make you go . . .
> 
> Hmmm.
> 
> Seeya round town, Moscow.
> 
> Tom Hansen
> Moscow, Idaho
> 
> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college students. The college
> students are not very active in local elections (thank goodness!)."
> 
> - Dale Courtney (March 28, 2007)
> 
> 
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