[Vision2020] real economic development in Moscow

[Jeff Harkins]

We appear to have stated our positions and we have very different 
views about our local government - let's move on.

Oh, one point I missed earlier.  You are correct - I would rather 
have "my friends" elected than have "your friends" elected.

At 11:20 PM 10/25/2007, you wrote:
>Jeff,
>
>Labels like 'anti-growth' are gross over exaggerations yet even 
>below you continue to perpetuate this myth, just like other members 
>of the GMA. Nor do I see satisfactory responses to posts by BJ and 
>Bruce to your false charges. That was my point.
>
>I don't see that as being anti-intellectual. I'm just calling it as I see it.
>
>--
>Joe Campbell
>
>---- Jeff Harkins <jeffh at moscow.com> wrote:
>
>=============
>Joe, I do not appreciate my honesty being called into question simply
>because we disagree on selected issues.  It is a very disingenuous
>tactic that you and your political allies use to obfuscate the
>issues.  It is unbecoming of you and very "anti-intellectual".  I
>would have presumed that you would not resort to such
>behaviors.  Perhaps it is because you have nothing else to offer and
>can only resort to name calling.
>
>If you disagree with me, fine - state your case, I'll state mine -
>and we will move on.
>
>As to the topic we were engaged in, "No Joe", you appear to have a
>significantly different view about our local government.
>
>Let's take a close look at what the council has done (and not done) -
>here is a sampling:
>
>Remember the ice rink decisions - and the impact on the hundreds of
>ice rink users.
>
>Remember the posturing for "no development in the corridor"  - which
>has resulted in significant friction with our neighbors to the West.
>
>Remember the handling of the removal of Mr. Jon Wheaton from his 15
>years of volunteer service on Board of Adjustment.  Local government
>can certainly make changes in positions, but to "fire" a volunteer,
>just because he has a different opinion?
>
>Remember the WalMart and big retail store decisions.
>
>Remember all the rhetoric concerning the development of the 77 acre
>Thompson property - are you proud of how that was handled?
>
>Remember the 3rd Street decisions - and the fact that folks living on
>D St and 6th Street have been waiting for years for their quality of
>life to improve (and their traffic to abate some) - a clear example
>of protect the few and punish the many.
>
>Remember the New Cities Vision - thousands of tax dollars to obtain a
>recommendation that Moscow should have high rise apartments and
>condos in downtown - and oh, downtown visitors should also have an
>unobstructed view of the surrounding countryside.
>
>Remember the fight with the County over who should manage the impact
>zone and the City's position on that - a rather clear end run around
>state protocols.
>
>Remember the effort to bring firearm bans to Moscow - another effort
>to go around state protocols.
>
>Remember the handling of the trees around the Moscow Mall.
>
>Need I mention all the angst over selected religious organizations
>and their occupancy of downtown spaces.
>
>Remember the decisions about whether we could cooperate with Whitman
>County in sharing in development of shared government services
>(utilities, fire, security) in the corridor.
>
>Recall the decision on "living wages"?
>
>Granted, you will no doubt favor the actions that the council took on
>several of these issues (the issues are necessarily philosophical and
>ideological in tenor).  But the fact is that each of these decisions
>casts a cloud on some aspect of economic development.  If you are
>persuaded that their actions were appropriate, then you are espousing
>"anti-growth" and "anti-development" sentiments.  And contributing to
>the view that Moscow is "anti-business" and "anti-growth".
>
>
>At 07:55 AM 10/25/2007, you wrote:
> >The real question, Jeff, is now that BJ has responded to your
> >question will you
> >read it and take note of it or will you continue to spread the lie
> >of anti-growth
> >just to get some of your friends elected?
> >
> >I'm betting the latter!
> >
> >Best, Joe
> >
> >------------------------------
> >
> >Message: 5
> >Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 21:15:57 -0700
> >From: Jeff Harkins <jeffh at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] real economic development in Moscow
> >To: bjswan at moscow.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Message-ID: <200710250416.l9P4GBfJ070204 at mail-gw.fsr.net>
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> >Perhaps Ms. Swanson would provide us with a list of the economic
> >development accomplishments of the current city government.
> >
> >
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