[Vision2020] Water Concern?
J Ford
privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Fri Oct 19 20:49:56 PDT 2007
Ok, I'm going to bite on this one.
As much as I really hate the nay-sayers regarding the "global warming" -so-called-issue, I'd like to ask this:
IF the ice caps are melting as quickly as is being stated, (a) doesn't this put more water into the atmospher, i.e., through evaporation; (b) doesn't this mean there will be more water to fall as rain; (c) the areas that are experiencing drought right now - won't they in fact see an increase in water through rain and/or the swelling of rivers, creeks, water-ways; (d) what are the pro/cons of using ocean water, processing it and putting it into pipes as un-salted water for communities in need? I see adds where a company is saying they "capture" billions of gallons of water a year for use - in what way?
And no, I really don't care to get into it about the "global warming" alarmists. I'm just asking the above questions.
Thank you.
J :]
From: jampot at roadrunner.com
To: joekc at adelphia.net
Date: Fri, 19 Oct 2007 20:13:41 -0700
CC: vision2020 at moscow.com; msolomon at moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water Concern?
>From the City of Moscow water dept. web
site:
" Wanapum well levels in Moscow area wells fluctuate some due to
pumping and recharge but appear to be quite stable."
And
" Since 1990 in the Moscow area, the water levels in the Grande Ronde
have been very stable."
Who should I put my faith in, Water dept.
professionals or the chicken littles who would prefer to see Moscow as some sort
of story book fantasy?It really seems to me that water is the scare tactic du
jour and campaign issue of the moment for the MCA shills. Till they
find a different drum to beat.
I repeat, Conservation can never be a bad
idea but using the water issue as a club to force other ideological visions on
the community where they don't apply (big box ordinances for one example) is
disingenuous.
g
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc: <vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Tom
Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>; "'Mark
Solomon'" <msolomon at moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water
Concern?
There were so many things wrong with the Super Walmart plan it is hard to
begin.
Some people noted the water issue – which is as pervasive as water
itself – but I
never did. For one thing, we have a problem with west-east
traffic flow that a Super
Walmart located on Route 8 would only exacerbate.
This ‘plan’ is indicative of the
GMA approach to grow first and ask
questions later.
In your original letter on this topic you wrote: "Could
be 50-75 years, could be 115-120
years? Could be we really don't know for
sure?"
But if we really don't know for sure, is it wiser to ACT like we
have water for the next
200 years (Krauss: "We could have, at the least, 200
years of water left"), or to act like
we MIGHT have water for only another
50-75 years? Which would be the better course
of action if we wanted to,
conservatively speaking, plan for the future?
The MCA candidates do much
better on this issue. Look at the original
Johnson article for
starters.
--
Joe Campbell
---- "g. crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:
=============
I beg to differ, when a rational was needed for denying
a change in the
comprehensive plan to accommodate a Wal-Mart in east Moscow
water was
brought up as an issue. Water use is currently being used to
meddle in
Whitman Counties Hawkins development. Water was cited as a reason
to oppose
Naylor Farms.
In reality the MCA candidates are not as
knowledgeable on water issues as
they (and you) would like to have us
believe. The science is not settled and
there most certainly is not a
emergency currently. Pretty much like Dan,
Wayne, and Walt
indicated.
Water most certainly is an issue but it isn't a crisis and no
quote you can
produce will change that fact.
g
----- Original
Message -----
From: "Joe Campbell" <joekc at adelphia.net>
To: "g.
crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
Cc:
<vision2020 at moscow.com>; "Tom
Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>; "'Mark
Solomon'" <msolomon at moscow.com>
Sent:
Friday, October 19, 2007 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water
Concern?
> No one is using the water issue "as a club to force
other ideological
> visions."
>
> The point is just that the
GMA candidates are uninformed about water
> issues.
>
>
Voters need to know which candidates are and which are not informed
about
> important local issues like WATER. Especially when this can be
easily
> conveyed by merely QUOTING the candidates comments during a
DEBATE.
>
> --
> Joe Campbell
>
> ---- "g.
crabtree" <jampot at roadrunner.com>
wrote:
>
> =============
> Conservation can never be a bad
idea but using the water issue as a club
> to force other ideological
visions on the community where they don't apply
> (big box ordinances for
one example) is disingenuous. I don't believe that
> the GMA endorsed
candidates are suggesting that we make a desperate
> attempt to suck the
aquifer dry before their terms expire. To suggest
> otherwise is simply
partisan politics at its worst.
>
> g
> ----- Original Message
-----
> From: "Tom Hansen" <thansen at moscow.com>
> To:
"'g. crabtree'" <jampot at roadrunner.com>;
"'Joe Campbell'"
> <joekc at adelphia.net>;
<vision2020 at moscow.com>; "'Mark
Solomon'"
> <msolomon at moscow.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 4:29 PM
> Subject:
RE: [Vision2020] Water Concern?
>
>
>>g
-
>>
>> You suggested that perhaps none of the city council
candidates have a
>> firm
>> handle on the water
situation.
>>
>> If this is true, wouldn't it be better
advised to err on the side of
>> caution?
>>
>> Both
Lamar and Ament cited PBAC as authorities on the figures they
>>
presented
>> yesterday at the CofC Forum. Krauss cited "something
[he] read
>> somewhere"
>> and Steed simply wants to remove
limitations and controls.
>>
>> Your
thoughts?
>>
>> Seeya round town,
Moscow.
>>
>> Tom Hansen
>> Moscow,
Idaho
>>
>> "We're a town of about 23,000 with 10,000 college
students. The college
>> students are not very active in local
elections (thank goodness!)."
>>
>> - Dale Courtney (March 28,
2007)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
>> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]
>> On Behalf Of g.
crabtree
>> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 3:33 PM
>> To:
Joe Campbell; vision2020 at moscow.com; Mark
Solomon
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Water
Concern?
>>
>> I assume the statement that includes
"...regarding
>> the upper aquifer which if continued to be pumped at
current levels could
>> be
>>
>> in crisis as soon
as 15-20 years from now." is couched that way to leave
>> room for the
obvious corollary?
>>
>> Could be 50-75 years, could be
115-120 years? Could be we really don't
>> know
>> for sure?
Could be that Krauss, Carscallen, and Steed have as firm a
>>
handle
>> on the water situation as any of the MCA candidates
do.
>>
>>
g
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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