[Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN

Ted Moffett starbliss at gmail.com
Wed Oct 17 14:37:46 PDT 2007


On 10/16/07, g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> wrote:


>  And what exactly would be your point here, Mr. Moffett?
>

The point is exactly what I wrote below.  I could, and probably
should, expand and rewrite this statement, given it is not as clear and
precise as I would like.  But I think for the most part the point comes
across:

 If Mother Teresa (Agnes Bojaxhiu), winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, can
have moments of doubt about God, faith and religion, so can anybody who
professes belief about anything.
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As to how this statement does or does not impact your discussion with Mr.
Campbell, I leave it to the reader.

Ted Moffett




>  ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Ted Moffett <starbliss at gmail.com>
> *To:* Joe Campbell <joekc at adelphia.net>
> *Cc:* g. crabtree <jampot at roadrunner.com> ; vision2020 at moscow.com ; Donovan
> Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, October 15, 2007 10:34 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Vision2020] Coulter's Dream - from CNN
>
>
>  Gary wrote:
>
>
> > I don't recall making any comment as to whether I believed your
> > assertion of being a Christian or not and I certainly make no judgment with
> > regard to your level of commitment to whatever it is you do believe but,It
> > certainly seems to me that reasonable people could come to the conclusion
> > that you are disposed toward a certain religious ambiguity.
> >
> > g
>
>
> If Mother Teresa (Agnes Bojaxhiu), winner of the Nobel Peace Prize, can
> have moments of doubt about God, faith and religion, so can anybody who
> professes belief about anything:
>
> http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1655415,00.html
>
> "...the Teresa of the letters lived in a state of deep and abiding
> spiritual pain. In more than 40 communications, many of which have never
> before been published, she bemoans the "dryness," "darkness," "loneliness"
> and "torture" she is undergoing. She compares the experience to hell and at
> one point says it has driven her to doubt the existence of heaven and even
> of God."
>
> "The church anticipates spiritually fallow periods. Indeed, the Spanish
> mystic St. John of the Cross in the 16th century coined the term the "dark
> night" of the soul to describe a characteristic stage in the growth of some
> spiritual masters. Teresa's may be the most extensive such case on record.
> (The "dark night" of the 18th century mystic St. Paul of the Cross lasted 45
> years; he ultimately recovered.) Yet Kolodiejchuk sees it in St. John's
> context, as darkness within faith. Teresa found ways, starting in the early
> 1960s, to live with it and abandoned neither her belief nor her work.
> Kolodiejchuk produced the book as proof of the faith-filled perseverance
> that he sees as her most spiritually heroic act."
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